MORE Wilson Effects 12 Position Bass Q Wah SOUNDCLIPS

Mark Olson · #1 11-12-2008, 07:57 PM

So while I have some of my pedals out I did a couple newer clips for the Wilson Effects 12 position Bass Q Wah, my wah of choice. The first clip is with a high gain distortion sound, look for the clip entitled "wilson wah fab tone" or whatever, and the second clip is just a thing with the Wilson Wah into a Frantone Lo Tone Classic Fuzz (look for the clip entitled "Wilson Wah Lo Tone" or whatever). Both clips of course are located and streamable from here:

http://www.soundclick.com/PsychedelicBassJams

I'd really like to hear anyone's opinions if there are any on these wah sounds. I know the first clip is pretty goofy, it's intentional. The second one I think is a neat fuzz/wah tone, what do you think?

RCCollins · #2 11-12-2008, 08:47 PM

thanks for contributing all these clips, I hope you don't burn out on it...

Ryan Mohr · #3 11-12-2008, 08:50 PM

I'm not a big wah person, but I loved the Lo-Tone and Wilson Wah combo, I really want that Lo-Tone bad...

Mark Olson · #4 11-12-2008, 09:09 PM

You don't need to worry about me getting burnt out of doing effects clips. Things are looking up, soon I'll be making twice as much money as I am now so you know what that means... more pedals! I've got a lot of stuff on my radar right now that I want to try out. That's the great thing about not doing music professionally anymore, I don't have to worry about spending more than I make off from music. I've got more lucrative ways to pay my bills these days and I still have plenty of time to mess around with my bass so it's great.

And just some things about the Lo Tone with wah. You absolutely need a wah like the Wilson, which has a buffer in it, to make it play well with the Lo Tone. A Dunlop wah (or probably any envelope filter) and the Lo Tone do not get along, and not in the typical sense that you'll get a reduced sweep or nasty feedback. A wah without a buffer at it's output will freak out the Lo Tone in a unpleasing sounding manner. It just glitches out the fuzz. That's one of the things that makes the Wilson Wah better than the Dunlop 105Q. The other thing that comes to mind is that, with my OCD for example, at the toe down position, the 105Q has nasty squeeling non musical feedback. With the Wilson, it's sweet musical feedback. Judging solely by the sounds I get out of them, I would say the Wilson Wah is far superior to the 105Q in design.

Anyways, also about the Lo Tone, which do you like better, the Jazz Bass clips I did with it or the SG Bass clips? Because the real key to the sound I get out of the Lo Tone with my SG Bass is the hot output it's humbuckers have. But I really do like the Lo Tone with the bridge humbucker. But the Jazz clips are cool, too, and if you like those sounds, those are probably more akin to what you'd get out of any basic Fender style bass (with output relatively similar to Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounders, anyway).

Ryan Mohr · #5 11-12-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

You don't need to worry about me getting burnt out of doing effects clips. Things are looking up, soon I'll be making twice as much money as I am now so you know what that means... more pedals! I've got a lot of stuff on my radar right now that I want to try out. That's the great thing about not doing music professionally anymore, I don't have to worry about spending more than I make off from music. I've got more lucrative ways to pay my bills these days and I still have plenty of time to mess around with my bass so it's great.

And just some things about the Lo Tone with wah. You absolutely need a wah like the Wilson, which has a buffer in it, to make it play well with the Lo Tone. A Dunlop wah (or probably any envelope filter) and the Lo Tone do not get along, and not in the typical sense that you'll get a reduced sweep or nasty feedback. A wah without a buffer at it's output will freak out the Lo Tone in a unpleasing sounding manner. It just glitches out the fuzz. That's one of the things that makes the Wilson Wah better than the Dunlop 105Q. The other thing that comes to mind is that, with my OCD for example, at the toe down position, the 105Q has nasty squeeling non musical feedback. With the Wilson, it's sweet musical feedback. Judging solely by the sounds I get out of them, I would say the Wilson Wah is far superior to the 105Q in design.

Anyways, also about the Lo Tone, which do you like better, the Jazz Bass clips I did with it or the SG Bass clips? Because the real key to the sound I get out of the Lo Tone with my SG Bass is the hot output it's humbuckers have. But I really do like the Lo Tone with the bridge humbucker. But the Jazz clips are cool, too, and if you like those sounds, those are probably more akin to what you'd get out of any basic Fender style bass (with output relatively similar to Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounders, anyway).

Interesting, so a true-bypass wah like the Fulltone Clyde wouldn't work well witht the Lo Tone? Also, I thought the 105Q was buffered, but what do I know. I think I like the Jazz Bass clips, but that's a personal preference, I'm a Fender (or fender-style) guy.

Mark Olson · #6 11-12-2008, 09:30 PM

No, it's not about the wah being true bypass or not, and yes the Dunlop is buffered. It's actually that for when you kick the pedal on, part of the effect circuit is a buffer at the end, which ensures that a wah pedal will play well with fuzzes. Without a buffer between your wah circuit and your fuzz you may be prone to screeching feedback, reduced noticeable wah sweep, and in some cases some glitchiness like I had with the Frantone.

Also probably a little late but I just noticed this thread:

FS: Voodoo PP2 and Frantone Lo-Tone Fuzz

That's a killer price.

Mark Olson · #7 11-12-2008, 09:33 PM

Also, for what it's worth I'm fairly certain that the Fulltone Clyde is entirely designed for guitar, and like just about any guitar wah in existence would probably rob all your bottom end. Not that you can't get cool sounds out of a guitar wah on bass, I've been known to use them, but it's just not nearly as practical as a decent bass wah.

Ryan Mohr · #8 11-12-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

No, it's not about the wah being true bypass or not, and yes the Dunlop is buffered. It's actually that for when you kick the pedal on, part of the effect circuit is a buffer at the end, which ensures that a wah pedal will play well with fuzzes. Without a buffer between your wah circuit and your fuzz you may be prone to screeching feedback, reduced noticeable wah sweep, and in some cases some glitchiness like I had with the Frantone.

Also probably a little late but I just noticed this thread:

FS: Voodoo PP2 and Frantone Lo-Tone Fuzz

That's a killer price.

Oh I see, thanks that is good to know. About the Lo-Tone, that is a great price considering what Frantone pedals are going for now, but I won't have the cash until Christmas/birthday time.

Mark Olson · #9 11-12-2008, 09:41 PM

So far a I know all the Wilson Wahs and all of the newer Teese wahs include a buffer after the wah circuit for when the effect is on, specifically to make the wahs fuzz friendly. You can also get a FoxRox wah buffer kit and install it into an existing wah, though I did take a short attempt at the logisitics of doing that with a 105Q and it looked like it would be rather difficult the way the pedal is built. For those of you who are Tim Commerford fans, it's long been my sneaking suspicion that Tim has installed a buffer at the end of a 105Q to help him get his Fuzz/Wah sound. But though I have a 105Q, I'm pretty happy with the Wilson Wah, so I won't bother trying to attempt it.

Mark Olson · #10 11-13-2008, 06:56 PM

So does anybody dig these new wah clips? Or more importantly does anybody not dig them? And does anybody want to hear me try to do anything in particular that I didn't do with the Wilson wah in these clips?

lowbass68 · #11 11-13-2008, 09:10 PM

Love the clips you posted. I heard your clip with the Wilson and Frantone. That sound made me decide to get the Frantone that was for sale in the other thread.

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

So does anybody dig these new wah clips? Or more importantly does anybody not dig them? And does anybody want to hear me try to do anything in particular that I didn't do with the Wilson wah in these clips?

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Originally Posted by Mark Olson

Also probably a little late but I just noticed this thread:

FS: Voodoo PP2 and Frantone Lo-Tone Fuzz

That's a killer price.

Mark Olson · #12 11-14-2008, 01:48 PM

Congratulations! Yeah, I hope you enjoy the Frantone, it's one of my favorite pedals. If you have any trouble coaxing the tones you want out of the Frantone let me know, I've got a lot of tricks that can help you get whatever kind of tone you want out of it.

Mark Olson · #13 11-14-2008, 07:02 PM

Okay, so I had my fiance listen to my clips, and she liked the clip with the Fab Tone (especially when I started tapping), but like most of my fuzz clips she didn't like the wah with the Lo Tone... said there was too much going on sonically... does anyone else feel the same way or should I chalk it up to her bad taste in music? :P As it is we're working on some new material in my band that I think the Lo Tone and Wilson Wah combo sounds great on, but I wonder if I'd be better off using my OCD, which also sounds good for some of those heavy riffs...