Multi-effects boards... GT10B or b9.1ut??

bassic_instinct · #1 12-31-2010, 11:06 AM

Hey folks,

Hey a discussion matter for you;

I'm desperately trying to find an effects set up that is versatile and dynamic... Now looking at multi-effects boards what would be the most wise investment:
Boss GT10B or Zoom B9.1ut??

Pros and cons of each would be really useful!!!

Oooor....

Do I just try to fond a decent fuzz, phaser, delay, chorus and flanger? And if I did would I need compression and noise reduction??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... Decisions....

Cheers!!

groovaholic · #2 12-31-2010, 11:29 AM

I have a gt10b and I love it.

It's versatile, flexible, and the effects sound great.

Sorry I can't comment on the Zoom, I've never even seen one.

bassic_instinct · #3 12-31-2010, 11:34 AM

Worth the money then?

Does it work like a pedal board; ability to switch effect on off in combination?

Swift713 · #4 12-31-2010, 11:41 AM

Try searching for multi effects. There are more threads on this topic than you would ever be able to read. Also, you might look into/search Line 6 M13/M9, Zoom B2, Korg, etc.

Pollinator95 · #5 12-31-2010, 11:47 AM

I have a Boss Me20B, and the sounds are decent. Not as amazing as individual stompboxes, but what would you expect?

ilovenofrets · #6 12-31-2010, 06:06 PM

If choosing between the Boss and the Zoom, by all means, go with Boss. I tried the Zoom B2.1U, and it just sounded way too clinical, so I couldn't imagine the B9.1 being much better. I know someone with the Boss GT-10B, and it wins hands down. The amp/cab modeling alone is just wonderful, and the effects are as good as a handful of Boss stompboxes, minus the noise of about 6 patch cables and as many wall warts.

bassic_instinct · #7 01-01-2011, 06:29 AM

I have the b2.1u and it's great for practice and jamming as it has in-built drum loops but it's the cycle through interface that makes it a bit impractical... I've seen some demos of the boss and it does seem the be the better investment... I'm personally not interested in an expression pedal so was thinking separate boxes may be better but that does raise the question of compression and noise reduction; would this be a necessity?

bassic_instinct · #8 01-01-2011, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovenofrets

If choosing between the Boss and the Zoom, by all means, go with Boss. I tried the Zoom B2.1U, and it just sounded way too clinical, so I couldn't imagine the B9.1 being much better. I know someone with the Boss GT-10B, and it wins hands down. The amp/cab modeling alone is just wonderful, and the effects are as good as a handful of Boss stompboxes, minus the noise of about 6 patch cables and as many wall warts.

Also.... What are wall warts??

Swift713 · #9 01-01-2011, 09:21 AM

AC adapter, a transformer that plugs into a standard outlet.

gastric · #10 01-01-2011, 09:27 AM

There's a huge GT-10B thread going. Spend an hour reading that for some more details. It's a great, seriously flexible unit, with tons of effects. I keep discovering new things each time I use it.

Sav'nBass · #11 01-01-2011, 12:41 PM

I own a Gt-10B and I used to own a B2.1U ... Forget about the B2.. The interface is clunky and if you are playing in daylight as in at an outdoor event, the display is almost impossible to see... The 9.1ut is a beefed up B2.. The Gt-10B is hands down the best bet for you.. between the two, however I would try to be patient and wait for one to show up here as opposed to fropping $500 for one.. ... I got mine here for $265.. I have seen them go from $250-$375 on these boards... In fact.. Look here... at this very moment

The Gt-10B is an extremely versatile unit.. several ways to do different things.. very flexible..

Grateful · #12 01-01-2011, 02:08 PM

I've never seen/used/heard or known anyone who uses/has used the Boss (though lack of actual pedal usage doesn't seem to be a disqualifer here..

) but I'll stick up for the B9.1ut here. I have had Zoom units from the B2, B2.1u and now I own and use the B9.1ut.

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Originally Posted by ilovenofrets

II tried the Zoom B2.1U, and it just sounded way too clinical, so I couldn't imagine the B9.1 being much better.

The B9 is a dramatically different beast altogether. First off, it has a 12AU7 tube in it, and you can decided when and how much you want it in the tone. The B2 (and the Boss) does not. You may or may not be into that, but it's there. The B9 is controllable from a software interface via midi, so there are zero menus to navigate on the box itself. Could not be easier. There are lots and lots of other reasons why a B9 and a B2 are far, far apart.

I have mine setup with 2 main banks that each contain 4 different, commonly used stompbox sounds that can be turned on and off on a per effect basis. I have all kinds of things set up a footswitch away (all of which are assignable), and it's been great. It has a 2 way pedal, so you can control one parameter going up and down, and another side to side. The effects sound great to me, without sounding sterile.

Plus, it looks as if the Zoom is a lot less money....

The GT-10B looks like a cool pedal. If I didn't already have my B9.1ut, I might even look at one. Either one of these pedals should do you right.

Sav'nBass · #13 01-03-2011, 06:28 PM

I guess the original poster hasn't been back here yet...

bassic_instinct · #14 01-08-2011, 03:44 AM

I'm back! Cheers for that post on the Zoom. I'm looking at these posts and they are really useful, I am still struggling with individual units though... I'm not sure if the beastly multi effects would be overkill?
Also I always get frustrated with having to set levels with effects on my b2.1u and trying retain the sound and punch of my basses. It seems that the original sound gets processed almost too much and i will either loose bottom end of have an ear piercing top end when moving on to the higher strings. I find it very difficult to achieve a balanced sound where I can retain original elements of my guitars' sound..... This is one of the biggest frustrations for me....

bassic_instinct · #15 01-08-2011, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Grateful

I'll stick up for the B9.1ut here. I have had Zoom units from the B2, B2.1u and now I own and use the B9.1ut.

Is the build quality better than the b2.1u? I know that the controls on mine are starting to act up.... Dodgy buttons and dials that go up when turning down if not used very slowly...

Grateful · #16 01-08-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bassic_instinct

Is the build quality better than the b2.1u? I know that the controls on mine are starting to act up.... Dodgy buttons and dials that go up when turning down if not used very slowly...

To be honest, I never use the controls on the B9 itself, other than to change from active to passive. I set everything up with the software via MIDI. It's incredibly fast and easy to set things up this way, an you don't need a Cap'n Crunch decoder ring to translate what is being displayed on the little LED. I gotta think that setting it up via software is gonna extend the life of the mechanical parts.

I don't take any extra or special care of it and have had no problems. I got mine used so I have no idea what has happened to it in the past. It is really solid.

Grateful · #17 01-08-2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bassic_instinct

I'm back! Cheers for that post on the Zoom. I'm looking at these posts and they are really useful, I am still struggling with individual units though... I'm not sure if the beastly multi effects would be overkill?
Also I always get frustrated with having to set levels with effects on my b2.1u and trying retain the sound and punch of my basses. It seems that the original sound gets processed almost too much and i will either loose bottom end of have an ear piercing top end when moving on to the higher strings. I find it very difficult to achieve a balanced sound where I can retain original elements of my guitars' sound..... This is one of the biggest frustrations for me....

The B9 has far more control over each setting that the B1 and 2 series, including the ability to changed the location of some of the effects in the chain. And don't underestimate the power of some well-placed and tastefully applied compression...

ribafish · #18 01-08-2011, 01:19 PM

If I were you I would go with Zoom as Boss is laggy. I was making the same decision, I was about to buy Zoom, but then I somehow decided that I will go the stompbox way and not multi.

But I would get the Zoom, as it is easily the fastest of the new effects(older Boss that don't use cosm are fine....the new ones...I wouldn't use them in a live situation).

tl,dr: get B9

Darknut · #19 01-08-2011, 05:43 PM

The boss is "not" laggy .. Gezz I use one live all the time ... 3 gigs a week usally

Chowowbus · #20 01-09-2011, 05:30 PM

The ME 20b is not laggy...but the ME 50b deffinatly is when using overdrive patches.