multieffect or seperate pedals?(Matter of money and needs)

[triggams]

I was post it on this thread The new Digitech BP355.

but it needs a seperate new topic for the right conversation.

I'm on a huge dillema with problems about money and quality of signal.I dont want to destroy that i'm listening without nothing.

I haven't the experience of stomp boxes it's self.

I want the best possible quality of the effects and the signal of my bass on my amp.Here is the effect list and the jobs:

1)Good Compressor for slap sounds
2)I want reverb and delay together for solo sound
3)Auto wah on some funk things
4)Looper which can take input signal with effects and when rec you can play with other chain of effects on the sound.Example, a loop with compressor and auto-wah and then a solo sound with delay and reverb on.Also a looper is cool on practicing and finding new themes or phrases on chord sequences.

I forgot to say the styles of music that i'm on.It's a jazz based music with funk,rock,hiphop,ethnic colors.....Fusion jazz in other words and straight ahead swing.

I like clean sound and pure on most time, but i want and something special on other moments.



I'm waiting your suggestions to make the next move.Thank u very much guys.....

P.s. i think of my english skills....sorry about that.I hope u will understand with the power of the sun and throw me the mana from the sky

[Kosko]

Depends on your budget and how picky you are. You could just get the digitech or m9 and be done with it; or spend countless hours tweeking and replacing select pedals on a custom made board with george L's and hidden power. Different for everyone.

[triggams]

i dont want to spend my whole time on pedals and sounds.I just need 4-5 different sound as i say to make specific things.

I want the quickness of multieffect and its cost.Also my quality of signal from the bass to be as natural as can be.

My budget is max 400-500 $.With those i thing i cant take seperate pedals with better quality of multieffects.I have right????

[ehque]

At your budget I don't think you can get individual pedals that will sound MUCH better than the multieffect units. Your budget only gives $100 per pedal you want.

I'd say get a M9 or a M13.

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by ehque

I'd say get a M9 or a M13.

So say we all.

[coreyfyfe]

Originally Posted by ehque

I'd say get a M9 or a M13.

+1. I use both, there are some things that the M9 doesn't do as well as single stomp boxes, but other things it can cover well enough that an audience will never know the difference. If you're on a budget, get the M9 and be done.

[cybersnyder]

The M9 is a great place to start. The effects sound good and you can add your favorite pedals that you find along the way later.

[triggams]

I dont know much about those machines but i was looking digitech bp355.
Suggestions from friends are Boss GT10 and GT6.(GT6 has 6 secs looper which i'm looking it as con and the most important of my list of sounds)
You now give me the Line 6 series M.

I can take used the expensive ones on this small list but what are the differences on those multis and there costs?

Have one of you try my option(BP355)?

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by triggams

I dont know much about those machines but i was looking digitech bp355.
Suggestions from friends are Boss GT10 and GT6.(GT6 has 6 secs looper which i'm looking it as con and the most important of my list of sounds)
You now give me the Line 6 series M.

I can take used the expensive ones on this small list but what are the differences on those multis and there costs?

Have one of you try my option(BP355)?

You will need to research the costs in your market, but in the US an M9 can be found used for around $275 or sometimes less. I've heard sound samples from the MP355 and thought it did not sound good. Your opinion may differ.

[miltslackford]

If you're genuinely asking people's opinion between multieffects and separates, I would say separates all the way. Mostly from my experience with multis - they have a habit of being difficult to get a consistent level and tone from. Of course when you use separates you will get differences in level and tone but they are very much easier to predict and set.

If I were in your place I would take longer to get better effects rather than splash on a multi and then for it to become useless when you realise in the end that separates are better. But having said that, you might be someone who likes a multi effects unit. I don't see virtually any players using them when I tour, either on guitar or bass. Also, usually as their digital, they seem to remove a lot of headroom and dynamic from the sound.

I use an mxr dynacomp which I don't think is designed for bass, and I've had quite a few bassists grilling me about it and saying how did I know to use it when I actually got it quite by accident on tour because the soundman insisted I go and get a compressor. But apparently it sounds great.

[triggams]

Originally Posted by miltslackford

If you're genuinely asking people's opinion between multieffects and separates, I would say separates all the way. Mostly from my experience with multis - they have a habit of being difficult to get a consistent level and tone from. Of course when you use separates you will get differences in level and tone but they are very much easier to predict and set.

If I were in your place I would take longer to get better effects rather than splash on a multi and then for it to become useless when you realise in the end that separates are better. But having said that, you might be someone who likes a multi effects unit. I don't see virtually any players using them when I tour, either on guitar or bass. Also, usually as their digital, they seem to remove a lot of headroom and dynamic from the sound.

I use an mxr dynacomp which I don't think is designed for bass, and I've had quite a few bassists grilling me about it and saying how did I know to use it when I actually got it quite by accident on tour because the soundman insisted I go and get a compressor. But apparently it sounds great.

I have play with MXR Dynacomp and i thing is cutting the bass and some treble frequencies.......Puts lots of mids and for slap is the worst senario man.

I think our sound standards are different.

Also i know about the seperate expensive pedals are greater from multis.I'm asking about the best solution on specified amount of cash.

Guys i'm taking the best for now the M9 solution.

I'm waiting new suggestions if there are any.

Thanks so far guys.....

[Kosko]

For 500 you could keep a watchful eye in the classifieds and pick up an mxr octave and bef, and some kind of dist. Throw it on a grom ikea board with a power strip and a one spot. Not a bad way to go really.

[Darknut]

Get a GT6B & a RC2 looper used like I did.
If you look around you could get them both for between $200.00 - $250.00.+

The GT6b just barely has a Looper IMHO ... it only does 3 secs of loop time if you want high quality

You will need a boss FS-5U extension pedal to get the most out of the RC2 but they are cheap even new.

I personally don't care for any of the line6 stuff.

[chuck norriss]

$500 USD: I would recommend a good compressor on its own then a multieffects unit that can cover functions 2-4. And for that, maybe a used Line 6 product or Boss. Actually I don't know any bassists who use multieffects but of all the guitarists & amateur recording engineers I know, they prefer Line 6 then Boss.

[Chowowbus]

I have seen tons of mutlis used live..both bass and guitar.
I use both..Buy a multi first and then add.. Youll find a situation of both if you really start gigging..

[Petros-J]

Originally Posted by Chowowbus

I have seen tons of mutlis used live..both bass and guitar.
I use both..Buy a multi first and then add.. Youll find a situation of both if you really start gigging..

+1
M9 is great to start with. Then a separate compressor and you 'll get what you need.

[Jazz Ad]

I mix multis and single pedals all the time. It works for me.
You can't really beat a single pedal for a specific tone and it's hard to beat a multi's tweakability.

[caeman]

The M9 or M13 seems like a good value for the functionality you get, especially if you currently have nothing. They are popular and would seem to hold their value if you move to separate pedals later on -- once you really know what you want.

[whisper14072]

Originally Posted by miltslackford

If you're genuinely asking people's opinion between multieffects and separates, I would say separates all the way. Mostly from my experience with multis - they have a habit of being difficult to get a consistent level and tone from. Of course when you use separates you will get differences in level and tone but they are very much easier to predict and set.

If I were in your place I would take longer to get better effects rather than splash on a multi and then for it to become useless when you realise in the end that separates are better. But having said that, you might be someone who likes a multi effects unit. I don't see virtually any players using them when I tour, either on guitar or bass. Also, usually as their digital, they seem to remove a lot of headroom and dynamic from the sound.

I use an mxr dynacomp which I don't think is designed for bass, and I've had quite a few bassists grilling me about it and saying how did I know to use it when I actually got it quite by accident on tour because the soundman insisted I go and get a compressor. But apparently it sounds great.

Funny you should post this... I am in this dilemma myself right now. I only play at Church on Sunday's but I am starting to want to expand my sounds canvas. I have zoom B1 which actually does quite a good job... but just not what I want... I think my ears are getting more tuned to the sounds I want. It does give it a more "sterile" sound... looses warmth and such. and you are pretty stuck with the effects in the order they want you to have them. The chorus, phaser, and I would say about half the amp simulators are good. that is about it. I paid $50 for mine. I now am looking at the B9 by zoom.... or individual pedals to compensate in the areas the B1 fails...

that's my 2 cents

[triggams]

i'm reading-watching videos and listening anything i found but i dont know nothing.

All is right and all wrong.Money still the same and the problem remains.

I dont have try nothing of those multis here on same setup to see and listen myself the best choice......

Too confused...

Maybe if i remake the list of sounds u will be better on purposals.

1)Compressor
2)Reverb
3)Delay
4)Looper

Those are extreme important.Second comes:
5)Autowah
6)Some synth sounds and Octaver

Anything far from those are for fun and only for home.With the style of music i play are useless the dist/fuzz,echo etc.