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Old 12-07-2010, 11:54 PM
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I'm upgrading from the bass big muff and I'd like to know anyones experience with one or of these... Any help is appreciated.
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:11 AM
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There are a bunch of threads on these two pedals, try a search.

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Also, you've got to realize that the only way you're going to find the muff variant that works for you is by trial and error. We're talking shades of muffy goodness here, since the basic circuit is always going to be the same.

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I love my Musket. Sounds very powerful and present in the mix, while not just maintaining but increasing the bass, instead of disappearing like all the other dirt pedals I've owned. I would highly recommend it.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:52 AM
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Just about any muff with a mids boost will get you what you need! Like the dude mentioned, trial and error.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:37 AM
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I love my Musket. Sounds very powerful and present in the mix, while not just maintaining but increasing the bass, instead of disappearing like all the other dirt pedals I've owned. I would highly recommend it.
My experience as well, the Musket is the only fuzz I've played that doesn't need to be blended with a clean signal to preserve the low end kick to the chest.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:48 AM
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My experience as well, the Musket is the only fuzz I've played that doesn't need to be blended with a clean signal to preserve the low end kick to the chest.
I have the same with the "hairy balls".
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I have the same with the "hairy balls".
Big John does make great stuff, I have the Obama Wah on my board for distortion, but I have not had a chance to test the Hairy Balls in a band setting.
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Big John does make great stuff, I have the Obama Wah on my board for distortion, but I have not had a chance to test the Hairy Balls in a band setting.
sounds really good. My guitarist bought it but didnt like so he gave it to me. Firts, I thought I wouldn't like it but in a band settign it sounds huge. Coupled with the VT bass, it shakes walls
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:47 AM
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I have the same with the "hairy balls".
Do you know whether the "hairy balls" and the "granny puker" have the same dirt schematic?

I feel like my "granny puker" packs a reasonable punch in a mix, but only if I make it do a tiny little bit of octave down.

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Do you know whether the "hairy balls" and the "granny puker" have the same dirt schematic?

I feel like my "granny puker" packs a reasonable punch in a mix, but only if I make it do a tiny little bit of octave down.

p.s. Belgian invasion?
belgian invasion yes

I have no idea regarding the dirt schematic, sorry
I just plug my bass into my pedalboard and play
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:02 AM
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Supercollider is super easy to dial in a good tone - it's pretty much idiot proof. The Musket (I owned two v.1s)is more flexible, but due to the interactive nature of the controls, it takes more effort to dial in one's sound. Both kill. Personally, I preferred the SC, but was happy with both. The only downside to the SC is that the build quality and finish aren't quite on the same level as the Musket.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:59 AM
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just got Pickle's SuperCollider and Musket in the mail yesterday.

initial impressions:

SuperCollider sounds great straight out of the box. No bad settings found during my first trial run. 'Depth' knob is a really nice feature. Brings more bass character into the fuzz circuit. Small tweaks clockwise restores clarity at a small sacrifice to lows.

Musket sounds pretty good too but has longer learning curve. Found many more diverse useable muff tones compared to SC, and the Musket can be dialed in more extreme and harsh than the SC. The 'Pre' knob was tricky to understand, need to spend more time learning how to use it. 'Tone' does more than just cut highs, it also boosts lows and gets closer to sounding like the SuperCollider. 'Focus' is a pretty sweet control too. Goes from over-saturated loss of clarity to slightly gated near-synth tones. Great for finding "your muff tone".

After spending about two hours trying them out I came to the conclusion that they both sound good, which is best is a matter of your applications. If your only looking for a great sounding plug-n-play muff than the supercollider is better. If your a fuzz lover in need of a very unique muff tone or more extreme tones than the Musket is better.
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Thanks guys, exactly what I was looking for... I think im gonna go with the musket.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:12 PM
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I wrote a review on the Musket V2 a couple of months ago. There are some sound clips in there that can give you a preview of the sound.

Musket v2 - Barrels of Sustain, Mountains of Fuzz -

There is also this Supercollider v. Musket shootout done by fellow TBer Eric! He's using a Musket V1, though, so it isn't completely accurate but it will definitely give you an idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYswRVl6oLc
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i went through the same thing months ago.
Do yourself a favor and just get a Fuzzrocious Grey Stache.

Also, thanks rob.
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see? this is where the trial and error comes in.

i'm a huge fan of the Wren and Cuff Pickle Pie B and the Iron Ether Oxide. i hated the Musket i had (great at home, horrible in a band setting) but have never tried a Super Collider.
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I can second behnder's notions of Musketsuck in band-mode, and pure awesomeness of the Pickle Pie B.
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Ooo that grey stache sounds legit... damnit
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the 'stache IS 'sposed to be pure ballsy fury. it depends what you want. i love the Oxide because every time i twiddle the knobs i find a new, useable tone. 'specially in conjunction with the Xerograph. the PPB is just a vicious, vicious main-stay fuzz. the TAFM is a delicious boutique.... cultured?... i dunno..... grown up approach to a fuzz almost.

what you want? melt panties off of cross dressing thai boys? impress others with your tasty, tasty tones? a fun to experiment with fuzz?
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