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Old 11-12-2008, 10:39 AM
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hey,

I'm having a bit of a problem at the moment with my Big Muff pedal and could do with some suggestions.

I'm running it with a Sansamp Bass Driver and when i play on my own I have found the perfect distortion sound for me but while at a soundcheck recently I stepped out from the stage to have a listen through the PA and with the big muff running I lost an awful lot of my bottom end, enough to really notice the difference. Coming from my cab this pedal sounds amazing and doesnt lose any of the bottom end but DI'd out of my amp and mixed in with the whole band is where the problem is. any thoughts?
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:51 AM
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you can buy an eq pedal, that should solve your problem
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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hey,

I'm having a bit of a problem at the moment with my Big Muff pedal and could do with some suggestions.

I'm running it with a Sansamp Bass Driver and when i play on my own I have found the perfect distortion sound for me but while at a soundcheck recently I stepped out from the stage to have a listen through the PA and with the big muff running I lost an awful lot of my bottom end, enough to really notice the difference. Coming from my cab this pedal sounds amazing and doesnt lose any of the bottom end but DI'd out of my amp and mixed in with the whole band is where the problem is. any thoughts?
Get a blend pedal.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:02 AM
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cool thanks guys, any ideas on blend pedals?
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I'm running it with a Sansamp Bass Driver and when i play on my own I have found the perfect distortion sound for me but while at a soundcheck recently I stepped out from the stage to have a listen through the PA and with the big muff running I lost an awful lot of my bottom end, enough to really notice the difference.
You sure it's bottom end specifically, or your presence in the mix overall? Given the SansAmp/Muff combo you're running, I'd suspect it may be a mids issue.

BTW, what Big Muff do you have?

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Coming from my cab this pedal sounds amazing and doesnt lose any of the bottom end but DI'd out of my amp and mixed in with the whole band is where the problem is. any thoughts?
Have you had this issue at other venues? It might be how the engineer mixed it, or simply how a DI output doesn't sound like a miked cab.

What you hear up-close, at any rate, isn't a good indication of what you'll sound like in a live mix by any means, regardless of PA support. Even if you can easily hear yourself when next to your rig in a live scenario, it doesn't mean the audience can hear you as well, or that you'll have sufficient presence in a PA mix. Have you tried doing soundchecks during practice, as far from your rig (and the band) as you can get?
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:44 PM
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What kind of Big muff?


you can change four components around the tone control get all of that low end back.

it's a resistor change though - not a capacitor change.
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You sure it's bottom end specifically, or your presence in the mix overall? Given the SansAmp/Muff combo you're running, I'd suspect it may be a mids issue.
Beat me to it. Both of those pedals cut mids significantly and your mids are the key to cutting through a mix.

A really scooped sound, either EQ'd that way (for slap or metal tones) or because of gain pedals can sound great in the bedroom, but it's often completely swallowed up onstage.
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I use a Radial Big Shot Mix to blend the Muffed sound with the normal tone... then I can dial in just the right amount of bottom....
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