Need help recombining a split signal

[RumblinThunder]

Just wired my squier jag to stereo ,I'm gonna run the neck pup(p) clean and the bridge(j) through some effects .
Dont want to drag two amps to all gigs/rehearsals so I need to combine the signals back together mith a mixer or something.
can I use a simple one like the behringer mx400 or do I need to think about phase issues ?
Thanx

[Von Felgenhauer]

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[Ba55Man1ac]

Hiya! The Behringer is a line-level mixer. It would do the job but it wouldn't be ideal. You might lose some top end with the low input impedance. I'm guessing the Squier is passive, in which case you should look for an active mixer with a nice high input impedance.

It's kinda pricey but the FEA Labs 2 Channel Mixer would be perfect for your purpose - high input impedance, full phase adjustment, switchable boost. Check it out.

[Steveaux]

http://www.loop-master.com/product_i...roducts_id=153

[Smurf-o-Deth]

You can do this with a blend pedal as well; I used to do something similar with my Xotic X-Blender.

[dannybuoy]

http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=splitmix

[cultrvultr]

Easiest and cheapest solution is a boss ls-2. Just plug both channels into the return jacks and set it to a+b mix mode

[Footbutt]

when i played in a three-piece (drums, gtr, gtr) i wired my Fender Jaguar (guitar, not bass) as stereo. i sent the neck PU through an Ampeg V4 and the bridge through a Yamaha T-100. it rocked, but i had cables running all over the place.

if i understand you correctly, you'll want to sum up your signal before your amp, so you will have two signal chains running, right?
you can use a mini mixer, a passive line mixer, or the LS-2 thing the guy described. actually... i might try that...

[Ric5]

I split my signal 4 ways and recombine the 4 back into one with Rolls mixers.

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/effects.htm

[Jazz Ad]

Boss LS-2. Microbass II, mini mixer, they'd all would work.
NOT a passive unit such as a Loopmaster, which would kill your signal and won't work at all if one of the pickups is dry.

[Ba55Man1ac]

If coming straight from your passive bass,

Good = active mixer with high input Z (SFX Mix, LS-2, Microbass II, FEA mixer)
Bad = passive mixer (Rolls, DOD)
Very Bad = Y-split (Loop-Master, y-split cable or adapter)

[dannybuoy]

The sfx Mix is an active mixer, should go in the 'good' category!

[Ba55Man1ac]

You're right, sorry about that (edited).

[fasto]

Originally Posted by RumblinThunder

Just wired my squier jag to stereo

how did you do that? (i also have the Squier Jaguar and love this bass)

[Steveaux]

Originally Posted by Ba55Man1ac

If coming straight from your passive bass,

Good = active mixer with high input Z (SFX Mix, LS-2, Microbass II, FEA mixer)
Bad = passive mixer (Rolls, DOD)
Very Bad = Y-split (Loop-Master, y-split cable or adapter)

Please forgive my ignorance and confusion. A "Y"-box is nothing more than three jacks wired in parallel. Why is acceptable to wire two pick-ups w/pots in parallel inside the bass, but not outside?

[RumblinThunder]

Originally Posted by fasto

how did you do that? (i also have the Squier Jaguar and love this bass)

just replace the momo outputjack with a stereo and connect the wires from neck pot to one lug and bridge to the other

Easiest and cheapest solution is a boss ls-2. Just plug both channels into the return jacks and set it to a+b mix mode

But the ls-2 dont have phase-switching does it ?
If I understand this right some pedals turn the phase of the signal 180 degrees

[fasto]

Originally Posted by RumblinThunder

But the ls-2 dont have phase-switching does it ?
If I understand this right some pedals turn the phase of the signal 180 degrees

LS-2 has no phase switching, that´s why i "switched" to the Xotic X-Blender (= my most important pedal on the fx-board).

Catalinbread SFT switches the phase for example.

[Ba55Man1ac]

Originally Posted by Steveaux

Please forgive my ignorance and confusion. A "Y"-box is nothing more than three jacks wired in parallel. Why is acceptable to wire two pick-ups w/pots in parallel inside the bass, but not outside?

A y-split cable or adapter is intended to split 1 input into 2 outputs. It should never be used to combine 2 inputs into 1 output. Rane have a great explanation of why here. (Was that clear? I mean input/output to/from the cable/adapter.)

Switching pickups in parallel causes phase addition & cancellation (some frequencies are boosted & others are cut) & gives your guitar another 'sound' (hopefully good!). You don't want this phase addition & cancellation when mixing 2 signals that are already to your liking.

By all means experiment though, you may come up with an awesome new sound!