Need pedal suggestions (noise rock band)

moggieman · #1 06-04-2009, 01:53 PM

Need some pedal suggestions. In this band I will be playing lead along with a drummer, so I need something that will really make my sound stand out. Here is what I have at the moment:

*Big Muff Pi (Russian)
*Boss ODB-3
*Ibanez Bass Synth SB-7 (ehh?)
*Boss CEB-3
*Dunlop Cry Baby
*Boss DD-3
*Line 6 DL4 (currently out of commission (house was hit by lightning and was the only pedal broken))

I would really like to pick up a Digitech Whammy (not bass). But does it really do the job of the original? Will it work on all settings?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

JMDT · #2 06-04-2009, 01:55 PM

ring modulator
octave
filter

to name a few

**DosiYanarchy** · #3 06-04-2009, 02:00 PM

subdecay noisebox - i recently picked one up again, i cant make it cut through a full band mix (at the moment), but if its just you and a drummer, it'll work a treat

moggieman · #4 06-04-2009, 02:01 PM

Ok. Any suggestions on a specific octave? I was thinking the Boss OC-2 instead of the OC-3. Does anyone have audio clips of a Whammy being played on bass?

Plantbrain · #5 06-04-2009, 02:06 PM

You might try a regular processing effects unit like the BNX-3 from Digitech, there are a lot of newer ones out there. I nabbed one for 200$ on ebay slightly used.

More things that you could ever use and need.
You can mix and add to each pre programmed sound also with 5 foot pedals, auto tuning, sampling etc.

Regards,
Tom

moggieman · #6 06-04-2009, 03:24 PM

These are all great, thanks! Can someone that uses a Digitech Whammy please help me out here? I need to make a decision soon to whether or not I will be getting it.

moggieman · #7 06-04-2009, 03:42 PM

Actually nevermind. Juat googled it and was able to get some good info. Sorry for not delving deep enough in my search.

autopilot · #8 06-04-2009, 03:56 PM

check http://bassfxpedals.com/ for bass whammy clip (scroll down)

steveo88 · #9 06-04-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moggieman

These are all great, thanks! Can someone that uses a Digitech Whammy please help me out here? I need to make a decision soon to whether or not I will be getting it.

Yooooo whats good.

I had the same idea about using the wammy for some of my stuff, I took one out on loan from long and mcquade and used it with an epiphone thunderbird and an ibanez atk running it through a ampeg svt classic head and ampeg 8x10 cab and i have to say the result was not what i was looking for. It is most certainly NOT worth you spending the money on the wammy peddle as it does not seem to deliver with bass. You get ZERO high out of it like u do on the guitar(which of course is the coolest part of the effect) and the low is very very very muddy. Sorry to have to break it to you. However I do have a suggestion. I have the Dunlop Bass wah as my wah peddle BUT i also bought the Slash wah (just to try out my theory) the slash wah of course has 2 built in destortion levels and u can tweek those to sound almost the same, if not better then you would get out of the wammy. Id say give that a try and see how you like it.

Cheers.
SpadeS

amimbari · #10 06-04-2009, 07:42 PM

.. hey Stevo88, a pedal's distortion factor, lack of frequency response or other noise it introduces when you use it usually indicates a models cost point. A 100.00 pedal just is not the same as a 300.00 one, or the cost of the REAL deal Kahler in labor to put it in after you buy it for 200 bucks already.

If you just can't afford a Kahler then a pedal is the only way to go. A lot of people use them, some units do sound GREAT, and cost a lot less than having a Kahler installed.

JanusZarate · #11 06-04-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo88

It is most certainly NOT worth you spending the money on the wammy peddle as it does not seem to deliver with bass. You get ZERO high out of it like u do on the guitar(which of course is the coolest part of the effect) and the low is very very very muddy.

Really? I think you can get plenty of highs out of it just fine, so I don't know where this is coming from. It even has a +2 octave whammy mode, which allows for insane octave sweeps not possible with the Bass Whammy. If you're expecting Morello-esque screeches, don't forget that he uses a guitar, not a bass. The tone of of the instrument you start with, as well as your amp, factor into it as well.

The lows are tracked fairly well, too. The Bass Whammy may have a slightly different tone and better tracking, but the tone is still 100% Whammy - and that sound is a gritty one. Perhaps you went into your Whammy experience with the wrong expectations, because it's well known that the Whammy isn't designed to do clean pitch shifting or track chords.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveo88

I have the Dunlop Bass wah as my wah peddle BUT i also bought the Slash wah (just to try out my theory) the slash wah of course has 2 built in destortion levels and u can tweek those to sound almost the same, if not better then you would get out of the wammy.

This is where I'm really confused. You're comparing a wah with distortion to a pitch shifter?

You do realize they have nothing in common, right?

moggieman · #12 06-05-2009, 08:40 AM

I'm guessing the best thing to do is try it out myself. If I go to a Guitar Center, will they let me hook up guitar pedals into my bass?

JohnDavisNYC · #13 06-05-2009, 08:43 AM

depends on how stupid the BanjoMart cleck 'helping' you is.

the pedal list sounds pretty good... i would ditch the wah (because i hate wah...) and get some sort of more interesting fuzz, maybe something more gated or glitchy... but that is just me.

john

moggieman · #14 06-05-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnDavisNYC

depends on how stupid the BanjoMart cleck 'helping' you is.

the pedal list sounds pretty good... i would ditch the wah (because i hate wah...) and get some sort of more interesting fuzz, maybe something more gated or glitchy... but that is just me.

john

I'm not saying what I have is set in stone or anything, it's just what I've had since I started playing. Do you have any suggestions for a cheap ring modulator or good octave pedal?

JMDT · #15 06-05-2009, 10:07 AM

I like the OC-2 as an analog octaver. For a digital octaver, the EHX micro POG is the way to go.

As far as ring modulators, the copilotfx android and the catalinabread heliotrope are two cheap alternatives.

Like others have said, a gated fuzz would probably be a good idea. Most of Devi ever's fuzz's are gated and synthy sounding.

I would also look into an envalope or low pass filter, the 3leaf audio grove regulator sounds great and is lower priced.

Din Of Win · #16 06-05-2009, 10:07 AM

As far as freaky oscillation goes, i've been having a blast borrowing my room mate's EHX Frequency Analyzer and Devi Ever Eye of God along with my own collection of dirt and modulation.

So, i would totally suggest the EHX Frequency Analyzer as a cheeper-end-but-still-useful ring mod.

If you want some really freaky stuff go check out
www.4mspedals.com . Devi Ever also has some rad noisy stuff, like the afformentioned Eye Of God (i'm also GASing for a Devi Ever Shoegaze Pedal as well)... however it can take a while for it to get to ya. My roomie just got the EoG last week and ordered it over 4 months ago.

For octaver +1 for the EHX Micro Pog

**TheMutt** · #17 06-05-2009, 10:21 AM

+1 for the Micro POG if all you need is -1/+1 octaving. The WH-IV Whammy (the current stock version) will get you more zany sounds and you can pitch bend to whatever settings you are using. I tried one out in the store, but still can't justify clearing out so much space on the board for one.

+1 also for the NoiseBox! That thing sounds awesome in every clip that I hear of it, but it just doesn't fit into what I play currently, otherwise I'd totally have one.

...Not that anything I own really fits into what I play mind you...