New Digitech Whammy!

B.C. · #1 07-12-2011, 04:25 PM

Hey all, haven't seen any threads about this yet. Seems really cool.

Whammy DT | DigiTech Guitar Effects

s_mcsleazy · #2 07-12-2011, 04:31 PM

ive seen this and its a great idea but its going to be way too large

Oreomeister365 · #3 07-12-2011, 04:31 PM

300 bucks? Urg. You can occasionally find a used eventide pitchfactor for 375 ish...a much better deal.

**DosiYanarchy** · #4 07-12-2011, 05:52 PM

I think it looks freaking awesome!

Definitely will never buy one tho. I'd have to get another pedal board just to do silly pitch shifts (nothing wrong with silly pitch shifts, but my M9 does it with a single expression pedal)

bigchiefbc · #5 07-12-2011, 05:56 PM

The guitarist in my covers band uses the Morpheus Droptune pedal, and this looks like it is squarely aimed at that. I've already sent him the line to this bad boy, and he might be giving it a shot. If he does, I've definitely report back how it sounds on bass as well.

B.C. · #6 07-12-2011, 06:00 PM

Its def. something I'm interested in. They upgraded to TB. While I like buffered bypass, the WH4 was pretty notorious for being a poor designed bypass.

Tyler Kirschner · #7 07-12-2011, 06:03 PM

i always wanted a whammy with the molten voltage midi2 that you can program to make arpeggios with it. seemed pretty cool.

**jmattbassplaya** · #8 07-12-2011, 06:13 PM

I saw this a while back. Apparently it still can't do the octave+fifth that you need for Tool songs.

Broadbent · #9 07-12-2011, 06:21 PM

I don't know who digitech is listening too, but it's definitely not their customers....

Vic Winters · #10 07-12-2011, 07:56 PM

Not impressed. M5 + expression pedal is a better option for less money.

bigchiefbc · #11 07-12-2011, 08:21 PM

Except that the M5/9/13 isn't polyphonic. My guitarist tried to use that before he got the Droptune, and it couldn't handle chords. Digitech is claiming this is finally polyphonic. We'll see.

And I personally don't think people wanting to play one specific Tool song is enough of an outcry to get Digitech's attention.

Blue_Whistle88 · #12 07-12-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadbent

I don't know who digitech is listening too, but it's definitely not their customers....

I agree. This is way too big for a single pedal, and size has never exactly been a strong point for Whammys (despite being expression pedal effects, just look at the Crybaby....). At least now it's true bypass, but for god's sake, who is coming up with the harmony options on this thing? The 5th-Oct harmony on the bass whammy is great, why is it STILL not in the normal whammy?

Also, while electronic pitch-shifting as an alternative to physical detuning of a guitar is certainly a good idea logistically, I am yet to hear one that sounds good enough to actually be a substitute While companies that make proper, high-end digital effects like Eventide are getting close, I doubt that the effect in this will be at that level. Could work nicely as a trill effect though, as the page on the official website suggests.

Overall, this looks like an improvement over the previous Whammy (which was quite average) with true bypass and an added pitch effect, but that added effect comes at the cost of too much extra size IMO. I reckon they should just reissue the original one with true bypass, and the Bass Whammy too (though that would probably be too good to be true).

B.C. · #13 07-12-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

Except that the M5/9/13 isn't polyphonic. My guitarist tried to use that before he got the Droptune, and it couldn't handle chords. Digitech is claiming this is finally polyphonic. We'll see.

I'm interested in the polyphonic nature of the pedal. I have mixed feelings, as the original Whammy is so cool because of the monophonic glitches.

bigchiefbc · #14 07-12-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Whistle88

I agree. This is way too big for a single pedal, and size has never exactly been a strong point for Whammys (despite being expression pedal effects, just look at the Crybaby....). At least now it's true bypass, but for god's sake, who is coming up with the harmony options on this thing? The 5th-Oct harmony on the bass whammy is great, why is it STILL not in the normal whammy?

Also, while electronic pitch-shifting as an alternative to physical detuning of a guitar is certainly a good idea logistically, I am yet to hear one that sounds good enough to actually be a substitute While companies that make proper, high-end digital effects like Eventide are getting close, I doubt that the effect in this will be at that level. Could work nicely as a trill effect though, as the page on the official website suggests.

Overall, this looks like an improvement over the previous Whammy (which was quite average) with true bypass and an added pitch effect, but that added effect comes at the cost of too much extra size IMO. I reckon they should just reissue the original one with true bypass, and the Bass Whammy too (though that would probably be too good to be true).

It's not THAT huge. It's smaller than a HOG. 8 by 7.7 according to Digitech's website. That's basically the same size as the old EHX BMS.

As for the harmony choices and such, I agree, the choices are bad. They always have been. I pretty much only use my XP-100 for the straight whammy modes. I'm just excited the try the droptune feature. My guitarist likes the Morpheus, and it sounds fine to me. If this can do the same plus the Whammy stuff, then it could be cool. We'll see.

B.C. · #15 07-12-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

It's not THAT huge. It's smaller than a HOG. 8 by 7.7 according to Digitech's website. That's basically the same size as the old EHX BMS.

As for the harmony choices and such, I agree, the choices are bad. They always have been. I pretty much only use my XP-100 for the straight whammy modes. I'm just excited the try the droptune feature. My guitarist likes the Morpheus, and it sounds fine to me. If this can do the same plus the Whammy stuff, then it could be cool. We'll see.

Not to throw this off topic, but which Morpheus does your guitarist use? The other guitarist in my band also runs sound for a Church, where someone was using the capo device, to much success(he could tell when he was and when he was not using it.)

phatbass · #16 07-12-2011, 08:52 PM

If they've improved the actual tone of the pitch-shifted note a lot, I'm interested...

bigchiefbc · #17 07-12-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by B.C.

Not to throw this off topic, but which Morpheus does your guitarist use? The other guitarist in my band also runs sound for a Church, where someone was using the capo device, to much success(he could tell when he was and when he was not using it.)

He uses the Drop Tune pedal. This thing:

I think it sounds pretty good. Maybe not totally convincing when playing clean, but he almost always is using distortion when the Morpheus is on. It really is indispensible, because we cover tunes from standard all the way down to A, and everything in between. He would need to bring 5 or 6 guitars to every gig if he didn't have it.

MysterMunky · #18 07-12-2011, 09:19 PM

Still no 5th up/Oct up setting?!?!?! They must not be listening.....

NoNoise · #19 07-13-2011, 06:48 AM

At least this pedal looks like it could run off a PP2+ or similar power supply.

**Bryan R. Tyler** · #20 07-13-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mnolansoc

At least this pedal looks like it could run off a PP2+ or similar power supply.

Nope. If it really needs 1300mA, then it's WAY more current than nearly every pedal power brick puts out into a single output. I'm guessing that since it's DC, most folks would run it off of its own 1-Spot type of adapter.