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Old 11-11-2009, 12:39 PM
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I'm not new to bass playing but I am new to effects. I'm currently playing with a band that has a solid power ballad that I'd like to juice up a bit. I play a custom franken p-j through an SWR Bass 350 into a 215 and a 210. I love my clean tone to death, however I'd like to add some "power" for lack of a better term to the chorus' in this particular song. I have an odb-3 but it just seems to add buzzsaw and what I'm looking for is "thunder." I'm looking for that intensity you get when thunder and lighting crack at the same time. The likely hood is that I'll use this very sparingly and would like to get there reasonably. Who has my answer?

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Old 11-11-2009, 12:41 PM
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There's a Way Huge Swollen Pickle in the classifieds. It can provide thunder and lightning. Also a Pork Loin that's very versatile and tweakable via internal trim pots, but not as outright abusive as the Swollen Pickle.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:45 PM
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does it do so without the buzzsaw grind. That's what I'm trying to avoid. This is an alternative country rock band so dirt isn't out but it needs to do it cleanly. Wow that's an oxymoron. Anybody got clips of the Way Huge Swollen Pickle?

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Old 11-11-2009, 12:46 PM
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There's a power ballad our band wrote and in it, there's a part where I go a little higher than usual on the neck. It felt good for the song, but a little thin on the sound. I played it yesterday with the MXR Bass Octave on by mistake and we all went "where the hell did that come from ? "

Could it be something you could use for your tune ? Flanger and delay are also options, but I'm sure there are hundreds, just got to find something right for you.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:50 PM
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The octaver is an idea. I was thinking dirt but maybe more boom would do it. Gotta stay nice and tight though. Hmmm...

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Try checking out various overdrive clips in the wiki here. I don't think the pickle is what you want if the ODB is too "buzzsaw" for ya. Maybe it'd be easier if you could find a clip or an existing song w/the sound you're looking for as a reference.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:58 PM
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The chorus comes in on an open E and goes from there. I dig in and get a pretty good tonal response, but I want it to be like 15 guys playing through full stack SVT's came in all at once. Just a massive crack. I know strange request.

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The octaver is an idea. I was thinking dirt but maybe more boom would do it. Gotta stay nice and tight though. Hmmm...

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You know what, I'll give that pass a shot with the Octave AND the gain channel of my SansAmp bass driver. Might be something i like even more
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hmmm..... VTBass or SFT perhaps? Possibly even a BDDI for a similar tone w/more EQ options?

Wish I could be more helpful, but it's hard to offer much advice w/o an invitation to the party inside your head.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:08 PM
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Yup this is gonna take some experimenting I think. More prescence in the song without increasing volume. The party in my head is awesome!

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I'm not new to bass playing but I am new to effects. I'm currently playing with a band that has a solid power ballad that I'd like to juice up a bit. I play a custom franken p-j through an SWR Bass 350 into a 215 and a 210. I love my clean tone to death, however I'd like to add some "power" for lack of a better term to the chorus' in this particular song. I have an odb-3 but it just seems to add buzzsaw and what I'm looking for is "thunder." I'm looking for that intensity you get when thunder and lighting crack at the same time. The likely hood is that I'll use this very sparingly and would like to get there reasonably. Who has my answer?

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the easiest and most economical way would be to duct tape your ODB-3 to the side of your guitarists spring reverb tank
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...but I want it to be like 15 guys playing through full stack SVT's came in all at once.
Judging from what you just said it sounds like a multi-chorus with an octaver
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:29 PM
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I would recommend the VT Bass as well. You can dial in a nice bass boost with your signal and some dirt (without getting buzzsaw grind) that will project your bass a little more in the mix. Personally, I use the VT as a signal booster for specific spots in the songs. I've used the VT in conjunction with an octave pedal as well, and it will REALLY beef up your signal.

Also (and this may or may not apply), if you play with your fingers, I would suggest the aforementioned pedal(s) and switching to a pick when you want to take it up a peg. I use both my fingers and a pick (depending on the sound I'm going for in the song) but I've found that when I really want to drive it home - these combinations have worked for me.

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