New (and improved?!) Bass Big Muff - Page 2

cybersnyder · #21 11-20-2012, 03:39 PM

Very cool. Not sure why I'd want an XLR on a fuzz pedal, but other than that it looks really interesting.

vegas532 · #22 11-20-2012, 04:10 PM

I called Electro-Harmonix and (surprise!) they had no clue what I was talking about.

RCCollins · #23 11-20-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersnyder

Very cool. Not sure why I'd want an XLR on a fuzz pedal, but other than that it looks really interesting.

I would very much prefer a "flat mids" switch to an XLR out... Oh well.

Inconnu · #24 11-20-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vegas532

I called Electro-Harmonix and (surprise!) they had no clue what I was talking about.

Now that's funny!

bgmww · #25 11-20-2012, 08:23 PM

If a fuzz like this one (or similardistortion like mxr m80+) is set quite early in an effects chain (say.. before filters, mods, delay, etc).. why on earth these pedals have a DI out ?

DeliriumTremens · #26 11-20-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bgmww

If a fuzz like this one (or similardistortion like mxr m80+) is set quite early in an effects chain (say.. before filters, mods, delay, etc).. why on earth these pedals have a DI out ?

send a wet signal to one amp and a clean signal to another

bgmww · #27 11-20-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriumTremens

send a wet signal to one amp and a clean signal to another

huh ?

willbassyeah · #28 11-20-2012, 10:25 PM

But looks great though, and list price is 150, does that mean their street price will be cheaper? Nice work ehx.

crapusername · #29 11-21-2012, 04:22 AM

Looks interesting. Looking forward to giving it a whirl!

DeliriumTremens · #30 11-21-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bgmww

huh ?

the DI is a buffered dry output. You could send that clean to the PA and send the effected signal to your amp

Laurent · #31 11-21-2012, 07:13 AM

The pedal looks great, feature rich and interesting.
It's about time they put out a new product for bass players. MXR has been killing them on that market segment.

That being said, who is the moron running sales and marketing for the company?
They let out a press release and the pedal is not even listed on their own site?

I am not surprised to read Vegas' comment that nobody in the customer dept knows about it. EH makes some interesting and corky pedals but I am not impressed by their communication and marketing skills. Maybe it does not matter when you have such a name in the biz but I've got to think that it must translate poorly in their financial performance.

fasto · #32 11-21-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DeliriumTremens

the DI is a buffered dry output. You could send that clean to the PA and send the effected signal to your amp

i don´t get it: why would i send a clean signal to the PA and fx-signal to my amp? 2 different sounds ... i want the audience to hear my effects!?

on the topic: EHX pedals (Bass Big Muff, Q-Tron+, Tube Zipper) NEVER did it for me, but maybe i should give them a very last chance with that new Bass Big Muff Deluxe ... or maybe not, i have enough qualified dirt pedals.

rr5025 · #33 11-21-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fasto

i don´t get it: why would i send a clean signal to the PA and fx-signal to my amp? 2 different sounds ... i want the audience to hear my effects!?

on the topic: EHX pedals (Bass Big Muff, Q-Tron+, Tube Zipper) NEVER did it for me, but maybe i should give them a very last chance with that new Bass Big Muff Deluxe ... or maybe not, i have enough qualified dirt pedals.

You can still hear the effect. It just adds depth and fills out your sound. Iirc you've posted in muse threads. Can you hear the effects in hysteria? Plug in baby? Citizen erased? Guess what....

diegobxr · #34 11-21-2012, 11:36 AM

HA, amazing.

Yesterday I bought a Bass Big Muff. Such a dissapointment. Returned it today. Now I'm glad I did, I'll wait for this one and see if it's any better.

Jason Hall · #35 11-21-2012, 08:51 PM

Seriously, what does EHX have against mids?! Do they think we all play jazz or classic rock or something? I loved my ehx bbm until I played it in practice and my bass kept disappearing. I hope this thing delivers, there's a ton of other great muff clones out there and I keep wanting them to release a quality product for bass players that trumps them. It has everything right but a mids knob, or any mention of how mids will sound with it. I just don't know man.

Edit; from the instruction manual on the page:

The Deluxe Bass Big Muff draws its roots from the legendary Sovtek battle-tank green Big Muff
Pi from the late ‘90s as well as from the original Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi from the early
‘70s. The Deluxe Bass Big Muff takes the best elements from both of these classics, employs
sonic elements that were specifically designed for your bass and gives you even more toneshaping
options than ever before.

... intriguing.

vegas532 · #36 11-21-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jasohall

Edit; from the instruction manual on the page:

The Deluxe Bass Big Muff draws its roots from the legendary Sovtek battle-tank green Big Muff
Pi from the late ‘90s as well as from the original Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi from the early
‘70s. The Deluxe Bass Big Muff takes the best elements from both of these classics, employs
sonic elements that were specifically designed for your bass and gives you even more toneshaping
options than ever before.

... intriguing.

Pardon my stupidity, but exactly where are we seeing this?

NKUSigEp · #37 11-21-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jasohall

Seriously, what does EHX have against mids?! Do they think we all play jazz or classic rock or something? I loved my ehx bbm until I played it in practice and my bass kept disappearing. I hope this thing delivers, there's a ton of other great muff clones out there and I keep wanting them to release a quality product for bass players that trumps them. It has everything right but a mids knob, or any mention of how mids will sound with it. I just don't know man.

The Grey Stache has a mids knob and I feel like the Bluebeard remains audible in a band context as well.

willbassyeah · #38 11-21-2012, 10:20 PM

There is a blend knob though, I think it will be very redundant to have a mid and blend + they already put the crossover to sculpture your tone further.

Jason Hall · #39 11-21-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vegas532

Pardon my stupidity, but exactly where are we seeing this?

Right here sir: http://www.ehx.com/products/deluxe-bass-big-muff-pi

They don't have the dbbm on the front page or anything but if you go to their bass effects it's listed there.

Jason Hall · #40 11-21-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NKUSigEp

The Grey Stache has a mids knob and I feel like the Bluebeard remains audible in a band context as well.

And the musket, and the supercollider... all very popular clones with mid controls or tone bypass because that's what players want. Thing is I'm not talking about those pedals, I'm talking about the latest thing ehx is hawking to us vs. the multitudes of other clones out there.

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Originally Posted by willbassyeah

There is a blend knob though, I think it will be very redundant to have a mid and blend + they already put the crossover to sculpture your tone further.

I'm glad they put in a blend instead of the wonky implementation of a dry mode that was in the bbm that some people even went as far as to mod. As for the crossover... it sounds cool and all but cutting the highs or lows to enhance mids sounds counter intuitive. I could see using the high pass to make some nice sludge sounds but we'll have to see how it actually works. I just hope they did their homework this time to make a quality product is all.