New pedal for trippy board...

falconspatriots · #1 11-16-2011, 07:04 PM

Hello everyone, I've posted here a couple times but have been lurking around for a lil while.

Today I have an question about enevlope filters. I'm looking for "out there" EF. I have a pigtronix EP-2 right now and its nice and all but it doesn't do exactly what i want. It has a sound all its own, which is cool but not sure if i wanna make it my primary EF.

I play anything from blues/rock/post rock/jazz(think mars volta lol) I dont really use EF in the typical way. Im kinda looking to do weird sounds lol.

I thinking about getting either a soundblox pro BEF or EHX enigma qballs. which would work best in my current board? ( the russian muff and the echolution have been replaced by a bass big muff and a eventide timefactor) Ill take any suggestions besides the two pedals I've named. Even non EF pedals

Woodsbass · #2 11-16-2011, 07:10 PM

Get the EHX Bassballs. Get some very different sounds with the distortion switch on...it's great.

WinstonNilesRum · #3 11-16-2011, 07:11 PM

Bass Microsynth?

behndy · #4 11-16-2011, 07:19 PM

Iron Ether Xerograph's the beastiest of beastiness.

falconspatriots · #5 11-16-2011, 11:35 PM

The xerograph deluxe looks very promising. Im kinda stuck between the soundblox and the iron ether now. The soundblox has presets but the iron ether has a less of a electronica tone...if that makes any sense lol

MSUsousaphone · #6 11-16-2011, 11:38 PM

It totally does. The electronica sound has turned me off to many a pedal.

G3Mitch · #7 11-17-2011, 12:01 AM

fuzzrocious teradactyl sounds pretty awesome from the clips ive seen.

sorry off topic but just curious..

how do you power all those?

falconspatriots · #8 11-17-2011, 12:10 AM

I have a voodoo labs PP2 under the pedatrain. That takes care of most pedals, the bigger stuff go into a livewire power supply until i get my hands on a voodoo labs digital

falconspatriots · #9 11-17-2011, 11:05 AM

Do you think the soundblox BEF is different sounding enough to justify putting it on my board? I know it does alot of what the EP-2 does, but does it do alot more?

Ive been looking into a 3leaf GR2 because it just feels soooo fat sounding. Every video i see with them they just play a traditional bass enevelope tone. Can it do the crazy stuff too?

metaball · #10 11-17-2011, 11:45 AM

i just picked up a subdecay proteus which i'm enjoying. i understand it's big brother the prometheus is similar but a bit more "out there". the sample/hold step mode section is more on the electronic side though.
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falconspatriots · #11 11-17-2011, 01:17 PM

holy crap the prometheus just blew my mind away!! thats exactly what im looking for. Wish it had presets but i can live without. Has anyone tried out a Prometheus DLX yet? Is it just the Prometheus on crack?

DeltaPhoenix · #12 11-17-2011, 01:52 PM

Prometheus DLX has cool features and ideas, I just didn't dig the sound of the filter though.

behndy · #13 11-17-2011, 03:33 PM

ditto.

metaball · #14 11-17-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by falconspatriots

Has anyone tried out a Prometheus DLX yet? Is it just the Prometheus on crack?

more envelopes & lfo options. it looks like it'd be fun to play with. Prometheus DLX | Subdecay
for me it's total overkill on a bass pedalboard. i have synths i can run an "aux in" if i'm jonesing for a tweakfest.

the filter on my proteus (which i'm guessing is very similar to it's siblings) is pretty broad, which can make it a bit tricky to dial in the frequency you want. most envelope pedals i've seen over the years tend to focus more on the sweet spot. seeing that you are a Pigtronix EP-2 user who is looking for more i'm guessing this shouldnt scare you off.

if you havent been already check a n a l o g u e h a v e n: w h a t w e s e l l
they have a pretty unique pedal effect section to rummage thru.

rob_thebassman · #15 11-17-2011, 05:06 PM

3leaf audio GR2?

behndy · #16 11-17-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by falconspatriots

Has anyone tried out a Prometheus DLX yet? Is it just the Prometheus on crack?

like Delt Skibblets said, the options are awesome, i just didna like the sound of the filter that was being manipulated. although, if you like the Proteus, then you might dig it. they're very similar at root.

also, a filter without an overall volume and a blend is never going to be anything but a Play Around With Fun Sounds filter for me. filters jump too much in volume with all the frequencies being swept through.

falconspatriots · #17 11-17-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by behndy

like Delt Skibblets said, the options are awesome, i just didna like the sound of the filter that was being manipulated. although, if you like the Proteus, then you might dig it. they're very similar at root.

also, a filter without an overall volume and a blend is never going to be anything but a Play Around With Fun Sounds filter for me. filters jump too much in volume with all the frequencies being swept through.

Any suggestions along the lines of the Prometheus/BEF pro? im open to anything weird but useful. Long droning sounds, ring mods whatever lol

WaldoNova · #18 11-18-2011, 11:32 AM

The Prometheus was the 1st pedal I thought of when I saw this. I have both the Prometheus and the Deluxe. The deluxe has a more useable step filter and a lot of bells and whistles but the Regular Prometheus sounds better.(IMHO, YMMV)

behndy · #19 11-18-2011, 01:30 PM

yeah, outside of SubDecay's Madness Filters and the (more digital sounding than i dig on) Soundblox stuff, you're probably only looking at Moogerfooger stuff for the same feel.

the Midi Murf is SO damn much fun.

falconspatriots · #20 11-18-2011, 03:10 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I checked out a local shop(if you wanna call an hour drive local) to try out the prometheus. While the overall sound is a lil more to my liking over the BEF pro, I ended up ordering the BEF pro anyways. The dry/wet control, presets and morphing ability with an expession pedal just tops all.

I dont mind messing with knobs between songs, but i cant do it while playing...

Thanks again guys. Although ive gone with the BEF pro, i can see myself buying the prometheus DLX at some point. It can get some real unique and useful sounds.