Nocto Loco on the way...

Chronicle · #1 03-18-2009, 08:57 PM

Just got a picture of what's coming in the mail soon

If the graphics look like that, with the red letters/symbols blocked out, I'll have to get my good ol' sharpie out...but whatevs...it looks hawt.
edit: Upon further lookage, it doesn't look to be THE exact pedal i ordered, since I discussed with Dan I wanted the input and out jacks on opposite sides.

Gashaponcito · #2 03-18-2009, 11:45 PM

I expect a good review as you always do =D

kevteop · #3 03-18-2009, 11:50 PM

I just barely managed to talk myself out of buying one of these. Keep your review to yourself, for my wallet's sake.

lemur821 · #4 03-19-2009, 12:25 AM

Best of luck with that. IMO, a very cool pedal, but useless for bass. Tried it out at the launch party (iirc, could have been the launch of another pedal) on guitar, and it's kind of iffy even on that. However if you've got something that puts out sustained tones or you're just looking to noise things up, it's a very cool pedal. I wish I had one.

Anyway, don't let me bias your review.

fightthepower · #5 03-19-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lemur821

Best of luck with that. IMO, a very cool pedal, but useless for bass. Tried it out at the launch party (iirc, could have been the launch of another pedal) on guitar, and it's kind of iffy even on that. However if you've got something that puts out sustained tones or you're just looking to noise things up, it's a very cool pedal. I wish I had one.

Anyway, don't let me bias your review.

I don't think you'll be swaying anyone's opinion around here

It's all about application- If you're looking an octaver to fatten up your rock tone or for some funk, for instance, then im sure some might find it useless- I don't think many of the talkbass-effects patrons interested in the nocto are looking to go that route, and from the clips I've heard, it is stable enough, and very useful.

jetofuj · #6 03-19-2009, 01:48 AM

4ms is making extreme stuff

Not for everybody for sure. Phaseur Fleur is the pedal I'd really like to try.

whoatherechunk · #7 03-19-2009, 02:01 AM

the switches seem to close together, no? i might be wrong based on the fact i've never seen one in real life.

dannybuoy · #8 03-19-2009, 02:12 AM

Mine's sitting on the table in kit form - gonna bust out the soldering iron this weekend! I'm gonna try and squeeze in an additional footswitch to switch between depth at zero and whatever the knob is set to so I can turn the pulsing on and off.

fightthepower · #9 03-19-2009, 02:17 AM

Keep us posted on your results dannybouy

Grimoire · #10 03-19-2009, 05:08 AM

It's not particularly stable, but it is a lot of fun, and can be used in a myriad of ways. It's certainly not a 'normal' octaver, if that's what you want, look elsewhere. Like any effect, with a little imagination, it's perfectly useable on bass,

Chronicle · #11 03-19-2009, 07:59 AM

The middle part of this clip is why i'm getting it. It sounds stable AND useful for me

http://www.thebunkerstudio.com/BASSSESH/NOCTOLOCO.mp3

Bassenstien · #12 03-19-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronicle

The middle part of this clip is why i'm getting it. It sounds stable AND useful for me

http://www.thebunkerstudio.com/BASSSESH/NOCTOLOCO.mp3

Craziness
I like...

Chronicle · #13 03-19-2009, 08:07 AM

Just in case no one knows this... It responds to lower and higher frequencies. Basically, hit the lower strings for a slower pulsating effect, and the higher strings for a faster effect.

Bassenstien · #14 03-19-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronicle

Just in case no one knows this... It responds to lower and higher frequencies. Basically, hit the lower strings for a slower pulsating effect, and the higher strings for a faster effect.

Thats pretty wild, speed based on freq.

Mr. Pickles · #15 03-19-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybuoy

Mine's sitting on the table in kit form - gonna bust out the soldering iron this weekend! I'm gonna try and squeeze in an additional footswitch to switch between depth at zero and whatever the knob is set to so I can turn the pulsing on and off.

I might be joining you in that endeavor. Good luck.

Grimoire · #16 03-19-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronicle

The middle part of this clip is why i'm getting it. It sounds stable AND useful for me

http://www.thebunkerstudio.com/BASSSESH/NOCTOLOCO.mp3

I lurk enough to know why you are getting it.

Just be aware that you need to be quite precise to get it to sound like the clip, it gets glitchy easily, morseso than most octavers. That being said, like other octave effects you can keep it relatively stable down to about the A string.

dannybuoy · #17 03-19-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronicle

Just in case no one knows this... It responds to lower and higher frequencies. Basically, hit the lower strings for a slower pulsating effect, and the higher strings for a faster effect.

As I understand it, it does this by producing an additional signal 4, 5 or 6 octaves below and using that to modulate the main waveform that's 1,2 or 3 octaves below. Clever! Should be possible to make the depth controllable by a stomp switch by hooking up the switch to short out 2 of the lugs from the depth control pot. Although I haven't looked at it properly yet to confirm this will work.

Chronicle · #18 03-19-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimoire

I lurk enough to know why you are getting it.

Just be aware that you need to be quite precise to get it to sound like the clip, it gets glitchy easily, morseso than most octavers. That being said, like other octave effects you can keep it relatively stable down to about the A string.

We'll see about that

speak_onion · #19 03-19-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimoire

I lurk enough to know why you are getting it.

Just be aware that you need to be quite precise to get it to sound like the clip, it gets glitchy easily, morseso than most octavers. That being said, like other octave effects you can keep it relatively stable down to about the A string.

I actually disagree with this. I find my Nocto to track more easily and stably than previous octavers I've used including: Ashdown, EBS Octabass, Foxrox Octronn, and Boss OC-2.

Did you build a kit or did you get a pre-built one? Did you adjust the trimpots for your bass? Is your bass active or passive?

Grimoire · #20 03-19-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by speak_onion

I actually disagree with this. I find my Nocto to track more easily and stably than previous octavers I've used including: Ashdown, EBS Octabass, Foxrox Octronn, and Boss OC-2.

Did you build a kit or did you get a pre-built one? Did you adjust the trimpots for your bass? Is your bass active or passive?

I had 4ms build it for me. I haven't adjusted the trim-pots, and I use an 18v active.
When I say it doesn't track brilliantly, it's all relative - it's certainly good enough, I just find that it tends to track the note, then glitch immediately after, in normal mode set one octave down. It's not generally an issue for me as I use it mostly in Loco mode, and glitchiness is an integral part of that. That said I will have a look at the trim pots tonight...
It's fine on my C and G strings - the problems start on the D and below. I didn't buy it to be tamed, so it's never concerned me, I just think that some folks might be disappointed, expecting something and finding the reality to be quite different.