Noise Generators?

[Skit1]

Can anyone reccomend me a good noise generator pedal?

Im looking for something thats just going to trip out when I turn it on, sort of a feedback sound I guess.

I want to be able to turn the pedal on, then fiddle with the rest of my board to create noise

So whats out there for me?

[rratajski]

Feedback mod to a big muff.

Devi Ever pedals w/ photo eye jawns.

Boss RC-2 Loop Station (you create your own feedback loop, save it, then loop it).

We were talking about Thingamagoops and stuff before the holidays. They're noisy little f'rs...

EDIT:
I forgot to add delays with repeats at full/100% would allow to generate noise and mess w/ sounds...

[Swimming Bird]

There are three main routes to go for this:

1) Purpose built noismakers/synths with thru-signal outputs. An example of this would be the Double Thumping Squaresnakes from Dwarfcraft Devices (I think it has a thru..).

2) Feedback loopers -- they just put pedals you already own into a feedback loop. You get different noises depending on what pedals are on in the loop and you can do some pretty great stuff with pitch shifters. There are a whole bunch of these popping up from various manufacturers.

3) Delays are my personal favorite. Almost every delay pedal I've played with has been capable of self-oscillating feedback. Different delays work for different types of noise. Radiohead gives some great examples of oscillating delays with trails vs no trails -- the end of Karma Police is a tape delay (Roland Space Echo) with guitar feedback, knob twisting and trails; about 2:21 in Paranoid Android gives a no trails oscillator on vocals.

What I have or currently use for making noise: Boss DD-6 on warp mode (it ramps the feedback setting when you hold the stomp); circuit bent DOD FX70 American Metal (a friend now uses it as a synth); circuit bent Ibanez Mostortion (note that pedals with an EQ section can usually give you instrument feedback if you boost the mids and/or overall gain); Boss PS-3; EHX DMM (awesome bucket brigade delay -- fantastic sounding oscillation).

Hope this helps some.

[whoatherechunk]

trogotronic....the end.

[fightthepower]

Noise generator? Any bypassed moog should do.

[TOOL460002]

the catalinbread teaser stallion has a distorted channel- and then you can add a frequency/feedback deal with the second switch. im not entirely sure of the operation- but the frequency can be adjusted on the pedal- with the knob- and by volume. theres a youtube video of the stallion with catalinbreads new tremolo- whatever its called. also- for extreme wackiness- a sequenced tremolo is fun. with the volume controlling the frequency- you can set the different volume knobs/pots to various levels- to make patterns.

if- for some reason- youd like to hear me mess around with the stallion (american edition) and a zvex tremorama- heres a (possibly annoying) 2.66min clip of me playing with noise. the parts of interest are at 30sec- 1min- and the last 30-40 seconds of the clip amuse me at least.

TBteasernoiseMP3.mp3 - 2.51MB

[EADG mx]

What do you have currently? Maybe you just need to get creative

distortions and delays are the best, ime

[houser444]

If you can get your hands on one...
Schumann PLL

http://filters.muziq.be/model/schumann/pll/drone

Rare but the best.

[whoatherechunk]

do you have one houser44?

[Green Mind]

Why not start by looping your pedals back in to themselves. Splitter at the end of your chain, one cable to amp, one into the beginning of your chain.

[CaptainWampum]

The Truly Beautiful Disaster is crazy like that.

[JohnDavisNYC]

the PLL is fun and crazy, but pretty tough to actually use well... i only know one cat who can make music with one, Satoru Ito (from Ultra Bide, Marianne, etc...)... otherwise, in the hands of mortals, the PLL is a useless noise box that doesn't track well.

it is amazing, but so unruly, you really have to have some sort of mystical connection with that box to sound good. i sounded like 15 monkeys throwing poop at a theremin.

the subdecay noise box and moog freq box are more musical versions that are not as tempermental.

john

[4StringsEnough]

As has been said, take a look at the Devi Ever range. Also, Subdecay Noisebox would fit the bill.

[Jimbob Jones]

Boss DS-1>Boss DS-1

Believe me, cheap, and crazy.

[Grimoire]

http://4mspedals.com/swash.php

[lousybassist]

Originally Posted by houser444

If you can get your hands on one...
Schumann PLL

http://filters.muziq.be/model/schumann/pll/drone

Rare but the best.

I need to know more about that one. Very intriguing. If you own one, please tell us more about it!

[anechoic]

Originally Posted by houser444

If you can get your hands on one...
Schumann PLL

http://filters.muziq.be/model/schumann/pll/drone

Rare but the best.

For anyone interested, hammer.ampage.org has a schematic for a device similar to the Schumann PLL:

http://hammer.ampage.org/?cmd=lt&xid=&fid=&ex=&pg=5

It's at the bottom of the page.

Some other options for noisemakers would be the the Boss DF-2 (also PLL based - that's what generates the feedback note) or Line 6 Dr. Distorto (digital implementation of the same idea). I think Behringer also makes a clone of the DF-2.

If you take a look at the myspace link for my band on my profile, and listen to the song "Words", there's a bunch of noisy stuff at the end that was done with a DF-2 (with the pedal held down, and the input signal removed) fed into an Alesis Bitrman (on the ring mod setting, I think), while I manipulated the knobs on the Bitrman. There was a theremin on there as well, but most of the oscillator type stuff was the DF-2.

I'd also suggest checking out the Snarling Dogs Mold Spore (wah/ring mod pedal) and the Lexicon Vortex (kind hard to describe, it had a lot of oddball effects) if you can find them.

[K2000]

Originally Posted by anechoic

If you take a look at the myspace link for my band on my profile, and listen to the song "Words", there's a bunch of noisy stuff at the end that was done with a DF-2 (with the pedal held down, and the input signal removed) fed into an Alesis Bitrman (on the ring mod setting, I think), while I manipulated the knobs on the Bitrman. There was a theremin on there as well, but most of the oscillator type stuff was the DF-2.

The Bitrman is a great sound mangler. You don't need anything "boutique" to feed into it, to get good sounds. A Digitech Death Metal is loud enough as a source, for example. You can make anything sound cool with the Bitrman. It doesn't "play itself" though -- you'll want to tweak it.

Originally Posted by anechoic

I'd also suggest checking out the Snarling Dogs Mold Spore (wah/ring mod pedal) and the Lexicon Vortex (kind hard to describe, it had a lot of oddball effects) if you can find them.

The Vortex is mainly a source of cool stereo delays, chorus and modulation. It's not a sound mangler or a source of wild sounds on it's own (in my experience).

For noise pedals that "play themselves" I would maybe look for something with an expression pedal input, that you can put into a chain. But I'm not intimately familiar with the 4ms pedals.

[Bassenstien]

I have been having alot of fun with my Truly Beautiful Disaster Fuzz. After trying lots of pedals, I have ended up just putting a phaser in the feedback loop and I get some cool swelling type feedback. It can get kinda crazy though.

[anechoic]

Originally Posted by anechoic

For anyone interested, hammer.ampage.org has a schematic for a device similar to the Schumann PLL:

http://hammer.ampage.org/?cmd=lt&xid=&fid=&ex=&pg=5

It's at the bottom of the page.

Whoops, that's actually the not the page I had in mind. It's actually on page 9.