NPD! Diamond Comp
Just wired up what seems like pedalboard version 862. I've always had a love/hate relationship with compressors, but figured I'd jump on the Diamond bandwagon for a while (mainly because I couldn't find a pwnzor).
The pedal order is constantly changing. Loop of Wonderlove is now oc2 > phase > hoof (which is sometimes swapped for a mammoth clone), as I'm seeing if I like phase pre-dirt better than post-dirt. Also have the comp right after the filter to see if it smooths it out a bit. The b3k is there to act more like an amp voicing rather than just dirt, hence being last in line, but that could change tomorrow.
What saddens me is that with my current gig, I don't really "need" any effects. However, I like to make strange noises, so I don't let things like "needs" get in the way!
Not sure what to add next. Maybe a bit of delay? Always wanted to try a whammy...
Sorry the pic is a bit dark:
Thread is missing discussion of new pedal. :atoz:
Does it make your bass sound gooder?
The diamond does add a new "fullness" to the sound, very different from other comps I've used. Band practice is Sunday, so I'm going to reserve full judgement until then - I've been disappointed before by many pedals that sound good at home, but do nothing in actual context. I'm hoping this one carries through. The actual compression is rather light - I'm also hoping this helps with my compressor love/hate. Might not do the best job taming the filter spikes, but I'm ok with that.
I love the Diamond...does great things to my tone, and the EQ is a nice little addition.
I ordered one today for the same reason as x52dcd.... I have been looking for a PWNZOR for a while and there are only two 3Leaf dealers in Canada, and they are nowhere near me. Hard to find a used one in Canada or from a seller willing to ship outside CONUS as well....
Diamond is Canadian and I got a good deal on one from my friends at L&M.
It will replace my Dunlop Bass Wah on my board as the Wah just isn't getting used.
Interested to hear your thoughts on this pedal in the mix....
If I didn't own a Pwnzor, I would be happy to go back to a Diamond. I prefer the 3Leaf pedal because it's smaller, uses standard 9v power and lacks none of the sweetening factor to my tone that first made the Diamond THE comp to own.
I did own the Empress comp and just found it a bit more clinical then the Diamond or Pwnzor. I like simple pedals that need a minimal amount of tweaking.
is it as good as they say
That is another reason I went with the Diamond. The Empress was another option but I don't do well with mucho knobs and I rarely adjust on the fly. My chorus has 2 settings I use and they are written on painters tape that I slapped on the pedal.
I am mainly a set it and forget it kinda guy.
I really like my Empress Comp, but really want to try the Diamond.
For my Canadian friends, if you can't find a Diamond on the used market, check out Moog Audio - cheapest price on a new one that I could find, with free shipping to boot. Plus, your local L&M should price match!
(note - no affiliation with Moog, just found a good price!)
Really looking forward to Sunday to try this out in true context. I've been doing a lot of silent practicing through my headphone rig, and it is seemingly adding more girth compared to my unaffected tone. I've been struggling a bit with my Lakland JO through my Markbass LM2 + Bergantino HT112, and I think this may be just what I needed to give me some more "oomph". I'm currently using the deeper settings of the B3K to help fill out my tone, so I'm really curious to see how they play together in that regard. Now, if I can only find myself another Berg 112...
I finally got my Diamond Bass Comp and I am super impressed.
I liked the Empress, but it was too confusing for my little brain. I don't do well with more than 2-3 knobs.
Did a full volume jam tonight a few minutes after picking up the Diamond and was immediately able to dial in a killer comp tone without bothering to read the instruction sheet (basically everything at 12:00).
Can't wait to hear it on a gig, but this comp is just great. Doesn't suck mids or highs and It cuts incredibly well.
This will likely be my first ever "always on" (or mostly on as it doesn't seem to play nice with my MXR Bass Auto-Q envelope filter) pedal.:bassist:
Love the Diamond...simple & sounds great!
Roll the EQ fully CCW for some awesome reggae-ish fat tones.
See, and that's why I chose the Empress Compressor over the Diamond: more adjustability, but not too much more (I've owned an FEA Opti-FET. That's too much!). Once you understand what each dial and switch does (and all are very intuitive, linear, and quick to absorb), the Empress becomes invaluable for controlling your sound.
I've got four other pedals, my amp, and my bass to adjust tone with -- why do I need that on a compressor, too?
Sorry to deter the from the conversation on the comp, but how do u like the hoof? Been thinking of getting one. How well does it cut through in a band setting? I like the tone of my classic big muff but it doesn't cut through at all.
I only get to use the hoof sparingly with the band, but I like it. I have ordered a blender though, so can dial in a little bit of dry signal with it for a more consistent low end. The "shift" knob on the hoof really works, but you need to spend a bit of time dialing in a balance with all the controls. I rarely run the "fuzz" very high.
[quote=x52dcd; Might not do the best job taming the filter spikes, but I'm ok with that.[/QUOTE]
yes, agreed Diamond comp is an amazingly pedal. Nice low fixed ratio for smoothing and phatening with a usable EQ.
However, not good as a limiter. Not intended to be. Also be careful where you put it in the chain. Changing input to the comp contributes to changing the threshold. As you are probably aware of by now, although it's a very low amount of compression,this pedal is quite sensitive to where you set the threshold. That knob is extremely responsive as you dial it up. it can go from smooth subtle thickening to full on sustainer/booster which can kill your dynamics but also be a desired effect.
Still, this is my favorite comp for the tonal goals I have. The mxr m87 is a relatively inexpensive comp which will also do a good job as a limiter which is probably what you need for the filter issues. another inexpensive try would be a graphic EQ after the filter.
I also switched from an Empress to a Diamond, and my experience was very similar to yours. The Empress wasn't always on for me, but the Diamond has been since the first moment I hooked it up. So easy to use, and just fantastic tonally. I also had been considering a PWNZOR, but they proved to be impossible to find. Besides, its nice to have a Canadian made pedal, especially when its one of the best out there!
I've bought and sold the Empress three times. It's hard to put my finger on it, but I just don't like it. I ordered the Diamond and I should have it later this week. Someone should post some sounds samples of it.
Both the Empress and Diamond are Canadian pedals.......yeah
I also bought the Diamond and loved the tone but the pedal was too big for my board so I got the Empress but I keep thinking I should just get the Diamond again......
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