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[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by adambomb

It seams that they are already in serious trouble.

Rip,
Did you try it with your PA or just headphones let me know. I haven't invested anything into positive grid... I have ampkit, AT, and GK. tell me how live friendly it is.

I'll be doing the PA test today after everyone wakes up, but everything I'm seeing so far tells me that it's gonna work just as well (and probably better) than AT.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

I'll be doing the PA test today after everyone wakes up, but everything I'm seeing so far tells me that it's gonna work just as well (and probably better) than AT.

I would really like to have a redhead option to go to if I want.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by adambomb

I would really like to have a redhead option to go to if I want.

The Redhead is the only bass amp they offer that I have never played through the real version, so I have no idea if they're doing it right or not. I just know if I can get a usable tone out of it, and if the BDDI is any indication, Jamup won't let me down.

I did go ahead and buy the Mutron pedal, and I love it.

[Rip Topaz]

The PA test was FUN!!

The BDDI and the Mutron sound great, lots of low end available and a really great rock bass sound. And that Mutron pedal is just funky. I love it.

I'm sure it's just the output levels being slightly different, but the low end on Jamup seems to be tighter than Amplitube. When you boost lows in AT, you get mud (using Irig). Not so with Jamup. The lows are nice and tight, the only thing I noticed was that the BDDI didn't clean up very well, but it's not meant to. I'm gonna try one of the other amps today. Suggestions? I prefer cleaner tones, and I have the Ampeg stuff in AT, so it's either the Redhead or the GK in Jamup.

I will definitely be able to use this live.

[adambomb]

Uh oh. I might have to get some jamup


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[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

The PA test was FUN!!

Suggestions? I prefer cleaner tones, and I have the Ampeg stuff in AT, so it's either the Redhead or the GK in Jamup.

Redhead!!!!! Redhead!!!!! Redhead!!!!!

[Rip Topaz]

I've been checking out the YouTube videos they made for Jamup, trying to figure out the sampler and the looper. It really looks like it could compete with the recorder in AT, with a different approach.
It's a looper so everything happens in layers, but there doesn't seem to be a limit on the amount of layers.
I'm really excited to tear into this and see what it'll do. After being so impressed by my PA test, I'm stoked to record some of this stuff!!

[adambomb]

I did some fooling around with AT3's recorder last night and quickly put down a small intro to a song......it's super messy (playing wise) and you can tell I did it to just be fooling with it but it was not as good as using it as a plug-in in another daw. Like GB.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by adambomb

Redhead!!!!! Redhead!!!!! Redhead!!!!!

Redhead over the GK indeed!

[BluesMan845]

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[PrietoBass]

Guys, you're all waaay ahead of me, but thx for letting me hang around here.

I tried JamUp and so far I like the BDDI with the GK, into my son's Behringer K450FX keyboard amp. The Jam section is ok, but I had to disable the ultra-low latency because of pops. But it's great to slow down the music to learn. I found the tuner a little of (sharper) compared to my Boss and Pitchblack tuners; maybe some calibration is in order (of JamUp or of my tuners). Ah, and you can adjust the song's volume different from your bass'.

Tried the metronome in a Ampkit and loved it.

I'll try the looper/recorder in Jamup and see how that goes

Edit: ...and love the fact that in both Ampkit and Jamup you're not limited to 3 effects, not that I use many at once, but it's good to have options. Finally, tried the octaver in Jamup, but I codn't get it to track well.

[PrietoBass]

I bought the Jam a few days ago and GC just sent a coupon for $20 on $99 and up items... If I had just waited another week.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Guys, you're all waaay ahead of me, but thx for letting me hang around here.

I tried JamUp and so far I like the BDDI with the GK, into my son's Behringer K450FX keyboard amp. The Jam section is ok, but I had to disable the ultra-low latency because of pops. But it's great to slow down the music to learn. I found the tuner a little of (sharper) compared to my Boss and Pitchblack tuners; maybe some calibration is in order (of JamUp or of my tuners). Ah, and you can adjust the song's volume different from your bass'.

Tried the metronome in a Ampkit and loved it.

I'll try the looper/recorder in Jamup and see how that goes

Edit: ...and love the fact that in both Ampkit and Jamup you're not limited to 3 effects, not that I use many at once, but it's good to have options. Finally, tried the octaver in Jamup, but I codn't get it to track well.

I've noticed that about the tuner in Jamup as well. It seems to track a little sharp.

I haven't had any issues with pops in ultra low latency mode on my 4S. Of course, I'm running a minimal signal chain in Jamup. For me to get a usable sound I only need the BDDI and sometimes some chorus. I get a little fancier in AT. I still haven't bought any of the amps in Jamup.

And the Octaver effect sucks across the board. This pedal could use some attention in all the apps.

[BluesMan845]

I think my initial excitement over Jam Up has worn off just a touch. Main reason being the lack of a real recording option to record over a backing track. The looper is cool but not too useful for this purpose. Maybe if they allow you to paste audio into the looper that would be a way around.

I don't use any of these apps in a live situation. I actually haven't played a gig for 2 years now. For personal reasons, I stopped playing in a band and haven't played out since. But the clubs around here are mostly bars that have bands so there are no sound systems or soundman unless you bring it/him with you. Chances are, I would not use an iOS app in a live situation but would be more likely to use it in a rehearsal situation. My reasons for using the apps are it just makes it easy to pick up my bass and play without the need to plug into my rig which doesn't sound good unless it's cranked and then the neighbors might complain For now, I still think Amplitube is the winner because of the "full package" route they took designing their app. It would be nice to see another bass amp or two but it's hard to beat the B15R they have included, especially for headphone/recording. If I was to start using an iOS app throught a PA system, I do think the amps in JamUp would probably be better suited for live work as they sound more "lively" and have more pronounced mids which are so important to a bass player live.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by BluesMan845

I think my initial excitement over Jam Up has worn off just a touch. Main reason being the lack of a real recording option to record over a backing track. The looper is cool but not too useful for this purpose. Maybe if they allow you to paste audio into the looper that would be a way around.

I don't use any of these apps in a live situation. I actually haven't played a gig for 2 years now. For personal reasons, I stopped playing in a band and haven't played out since. But the clubs around here are mostly bars that have bands so there are no sound systems or soundman unless you bring it/him with you. Chances are, I would not use an iOS app in a live situation but would be more likely to use it in a rehearsal situation. My reasons for using the apps are it just makes it easy to pick up my bass and play without the need to plug into my rig which doesn't sound good unless it's cranked and then the neighbors might complain For now, I still think Amplitube is the winner because of the "full package" route they took designing their app. It would be nice to see another bass amp or two but it's hard to beat the B15R they have included, especially for headphone/recording. If I was to start using an iOS app throught a PA system, I do think the amps in JamUp would probably be better suited for live work as they sound more "lively" and have more pronounced mids which are so important to a bass player live.

Nothing beats the B15R yet, at least for my part when I can combine it with the Møller and the envelope filter. But now after the update you can find more nice amps in Jamup. I like the SVT and the Redhead. I also like the BDDI with the Orange. Now it sounds like my Oxford in front of my PBDDI both from Sansamp. I'm not familiar with the GK RB800, but it lack some grit compares to the GK tone on the GK app. But I guess the GK app is based on the newer GK 700RB with the G.I.V.E valve channel thing.
As a whole package AT is the most complete, but I've got an e mail from Positive Grid that the multitrack recorder is coming!
If they fix that and fix the metronome to the level of Ampkit, then Jamup will be the best package all in all!
One strong point in Jamup compares to AT or Ampkit is that you can place effects before or after the amp.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

I've noticed that about the tuner in Jamup as well. It seems to track a little sharp.

I haven't had any issues with pops in ultra low latency mode on my 4S. Of course, I'm running a minimal signal chain in Jamup. For me to get a usable sound I only need the BDDI and sometimes some chorus. I get a little fancier in AT. I still haven't bought any of the amps in Jamup.

And the Octaver effect sucks across the board. This pedal could use some attention in all the apps.

I use the TC polytune app as it seems to track best of all the apps regarding tuning.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Nothing beats the B15R yet, at least for my part when I can combine it with the Møller and the envelope filter. But now after the update you can find more nice amps in Jamup. I like the SVT and the Redhead. I also like the BDDI with the Orange. Now it sounds like my Oxford in front of my PBDDI both from Sansamp. I'm not familiar with the GK RB800, but it lack some grit compares to the GK tone on the GK app. But I guess the GK app is based on the newer GK 700RB with the G.I.V.E valve channel thing.
As a whole package AT is the most complete, but I've got an e mail from Positive Grid that the multitrack recorder is coming!
If they fix that and fix the metronome to the level of Ampkit, then Jamup will be the best package all in all!
One strong point in Jamup compares to AT or Ampkit is that you can place effects before or after the amp.

I really like that about Jamup, hopefully they won't make us wait too long for the multitrack, or worse yet, I hope they don't release it as a separate app. That would suck.

I'm able to get "my tone" with Jamup or Amplitube. Not with AmpKit or PocketGK.

"My tone" is pretty simple. A light compression, the cleanest possible sound, with a little edge added to give the impression of it being very LOUD. Lots of mids. Very few actual effects, my tone may be created by the combination of effects, but any pedals used are "always on".

I A/B/C'd Amplitube and Jamup against my bass plugged directly into my amp yesterday, and honestly, except for the feeling of moving lots of air, I now prefer the DI sound. Another step towards being completely ampless!!

I'd really like to see one of the guys from Positive Grid join in this conversation, instead of us having to repeat ourselves by constantly emailing them.

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Duke21

I use the TC polytune app as it seems to track best of all the apps regarding tuning.

Me too!! I got the TC Polytune app when they first introduced it, so I got it for free. It has been my go-to tuner ever since, even replacing my "real" tuner.

I hope Jamup fixes their tuner. It seems to track a hair sharp.

I also sent Positive Grid a link to this group and an invitation to join.

[BluesMan845]

Originally Posted by Duke21

As a whole package AT is the most complete, but I've got an e mail from Positive Grid that the multitrack recorder is coming!
If they fix that and fix the metronome to the level of Ampkit, then Jamup will be the best package all in all!
One strong point in Jamup compares to AT or Ampkit is that you can place effects before or after the amp.

Yeah, the ability to place pedals at any point you want in the chain makes a huge difference in how they react/interact. A multi-track would be very cool as long as it doesn't replace the looper

Originally Posted by Rip Topaz

I really like that about Jamup, hopefully they won't make us wait too long for the multitrack, or worse yet, I hope they don't release it as a separate app. That would suck.



I'd really like to see one of the guys from Positive Grid join in this conversation, instead of us having to repeat ourselves by constantly emailing them.

They have an announcement on their FB page about Audiobus and how JamUp is one of the apps that will support it on launch day. So, even if they released it as a separate app wouldn't the inclusion of AudioBus support mitigate any issues? I don't fully understand the whole thing but it sounds like a way to run multiple apps at the same time allowing them to work together.

[Rip Topaz]

I believe that's correct. Which would allow us to run Jamup in the background and use those tones in the Amplitube recorder.

Of course, with IK's track record, they'll probably find a way to make it not work unless you use Amplitube's modeling.