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[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Also, the license things, does Ampeg gets paid for the license?

Of course they do.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Guys, let's move on.

Vote with your dollars.

The end.

Indeed. But one good thing is coming out of this discussion, we will reach part 2!!

[Rip Topaz]

Lol.

[PrietoBass]

[fivestringgecko]

I have to say I admire you Brian, you're a true PR guy. Spin for days! You're only hurting IK's reputation by coming in here and starting a pissing match.

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

How can one be both miles better than the other and the same amp "re-skinned" at the same time?

Like Rip said, I wasn't referring to the B15. That's the one thing I did like about Amplitube iOS. The B15 is my holy grail amp, so I jumped at the chance to download it and try it out. Way better than the stock bass amp. Also, you never addressed the subject of the B15 still having bugs. You tell us to contact with you with issues, but it apparently doesn't do any good?

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

My experience is the tracking on hardware octave divider pedals is typically just as bad. There are actually 2 other octave pedals available in AmpliTube iOS - the Octo-Blue from AmpliTube Slash, and the Octa-V from AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix. The Octa-V doubles the octave, instead of dividing it.

You're... joking, right? I currently have an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe that tracks reliably and consistently down to a low F# on my E string. Here's a clip for you. That's pretty f'ing good tracking. The Octamizer and Octabass are also just as great, the OC-2 and OC-3 I've owned have tracked very well and consistently and even the vintage Ampeg Sub Blaster I picked up a while back tracks to a low Ab. Your octaver doesn't hold a candle to any of them.

An octave/fuzz isn't a true octaver. It may have an octaver as part of it's sound, but if you can't control each independently, then it remains a single effect. Octave/fuzz.

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

YOU said it was "re-skinned gear." I made the point that such a notion is easy to dispel by simply comparing it. Clearly you hadn't actually compared it, or you wouldn't have been making this false claim (or did you, which is why you admit they don't sound the same now?) So why make such a claim with no basis in fact or personal experience?

Of course I haven't compared them for myself. Why should I put money in IK's pocket if fellow bass players tell me they're not worth spending the money on? I trust my fellow Talkbassers and I listen when someone comes in with experience of gear that I've looked at. I never claimed they sounded one way or another, I said I'm not spending money on it.

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

Because you could use them on guitar if you want. Doubling and harmonization are standard guitar effects as well. And also, because AmpliTube includes a multi-track recorder and mixer, so you can record vocals and other instruments to create a complete song arrangement within AmpliTube.

That's fine and good, use them on guitar. I just said I was curious.

Amplitube does NOT include a multi-track recorder and mixer, you have to BUY the multi-track recorder and mixer. I very much like the a'la carte approach, it lets me get what I want, not what someone shoves down my throat. But don't tell us Amplitube INCLUDES something that you have to BUY.

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

We model the gear accurately, "as is". End of story.
Personally, I don't think it 'sucks' - I think of it more as 'colorful' with a character that experienced bassists will instantly recognize.

Ah, more PR spin. So you're saying it's not your models that suck, it's the original gear? Then why model it? Why not make it better?

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

The Envelope Filter is not modeled on the Mu-Tron III, BTW. We have a different model of that in the AmpliTube Custom Shop. It is always a possibility that we may bring it to iOS, too.

Fair enough, we'd have to buy the Mu-Tron model if it comes to iOS and hope it works. So what is the stock envelope filter in Amplitube modeled after? I'm an envelope filter junkie, I'll make sure to avoid the real life version.

5sg.

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Guys, let's move on.

Vote with your dollars.

The end.

The voice of reason and a very good point. Sorry, I got delayed with my post and didn't see this...

I'm off my soapbox.

5sg.

[Rip Topaz]

There we have it. IK Multimedia's Amplitube iOS is "colorful".

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

The voice of reason and a very good point. Sorry, I got delayed with my post and didn't see this...

I'm off my soapbox.

5sg.

Indeed Prieto, the voice of reason.

So as we discus B15's on this thread, Steve R mentioned on the iOS bass player thread that the old B15 as on Jamup have a passive tone stack which have flat response when bass and treble are sett on 12. So if you want more mids you need to cut the bass and the treble just like on the modern BDDI!

[Brian at IK]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Vote with your dollars.

The end.

Indeed. People do, which is why AmpliTube is consistently in the top 20 grossing music apps, and has been for years, dominating all ampsims on iOS by a wide margin to this day. Even AmpliTube FREE beats all competitors in sales.

[PrietoBass]

Originally Posted by Duke21

...if you want more mids you need to cut the bass and the treble just like on the modern BDDI!

Yep, this is cool. Between that and the blend button many people find that the BDDI is a very flexible pedal.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Brian at IK

Indeed. People do, which is why AmpliTube is consistently in the top 20 grossing music apps, and has been for years, dominating all ampsims on iOS by a wide margin to this day. Even AmpliTube FREE beats all competitors in sales.

It will be more interesting if you could tell us something about the tone stack of the B15R. Sale statistics of Amplitube are not that interesting. First of all, it is a strongly guitar oriented app, secondly.... As Prieto suggest, we need to move on, I've lots of stuff to try out, a Redhead is calling me!

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by PrietoBass

Yep, this is cool. Between that and the blend button many people find that the BDDI is a very flexible pedal.

Indeed.
But think how good the RBI will sound as it basically a BDDI with more options!

[JimmyM]

Wow, I quit reading for a couple weeks and miss all the fun!

[Rip Topaz]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Wow, I quit reading for a couple weeks and miss all the fun!

Make sure you check out the iOS Bass Players thread. It's gotta be the fastest moving thread on Talkbass!

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=941283

[Rip Topaz]

IK Multimedia. Musicians First.

Seriously. That's their tagline. Lol.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by adambomb

Anyone have any more trouble with crashing on startup since the update in Amplitube to 2.8.1?

That was the first post on this thread since the 17th last night after I got back from the movie theater and I look back at it now after practice tonight and 4 and a half pages blow by of some serious smack talking from both sides ...... Whoa

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Wow, I quit reading for a couple weeks and miss all the fun!

It took me a while to read all this crap almost 5 pages worth
Howdy jimmym

[adambomb]

Everyone on both sides need to calm down a bit. Thank you rip for saying what we are all thinking and feeling...
Brian since you are obviously paying attention and just lurking and not talking until now.....why have you guys been so elusive....there wouldn't be so much hard feelings if there had been more interaction. I'm not angry we as customers WANT to like your product and we (at the very least, the three of us: rip, duke, and myself) have been you greatest supporters on this entire forum of TB until recently when we have felt as if we have been given the shaft on the IK forums.

[adambomb]

Originally Posted by Duke21

Haven't tried 2.8.1.
How is the dual showman?

I tried it at practice tonight and I was pleasantly surprised how good it sounded with a two 15 cab the bass was tight and the highs and mids were distinctive. But even with it sounding so good and I was using my art interface there was a lot of hiss .....it drove me crazy.....I immediately started doing the old 6band eq trick to get rid of hiss and noise


Brian,
This is what we mean by constructive criticism that you need to improve your product. With jamup I don't have to use a noise filter of any kind and the bass tone is fantastic. I want to use AT and bought the Dual Showman in the hopes that I could use it on stage. I use iOS on stage all the time into the direct box for FOH. It is a DI world for bassists. Not guitarist. Bassist will use your app seriously more than guitarist If you would pay attention to them instead of having your product look and be a toy for guitarists it could be a serious tool. It was a serious tool for me for over 2 years until jamup came out with "the bass expansion pack" I no longer use AT on stage anymore. Isn't that sad? The hiss and noise issue is a serious problem. It's something not only a few but everyone that comes in contact with your app says. They all say "it sound great if it wasn't for all the noise and hiss" or "I could probably use this app as a great practice tool, but I could never,because of the hiss I wouldn't be able to use it live".

We want you to help yourselves first in turn helping ourselves to a great live performance tool.

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Wow, I quit reading for a couple weeks and miss all the fun!

Yeh Jimmy, we have missed you!
Had a good Christmas?