Oh Gods, The Mobbius site is up!

[bassicsax]

Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone

So everyone has been PMing me about my thoughts on the Mobius....I figure in order to keep my inbox empty, I'll post my thoughts.....alright, fine. Everyone was asking that I ship my Mobius to Behndy to let him give you his thoughts on it but **** you people. You have to deal with my thoughts.

Overall. The big word for it is SOLID. Let's take the Quadrature and Destroyer out of the equation. You're left with nothing groundbreaking. Just downright solid. Like the Timeline, it's dark, lush, and sounds analog. All of it. The parameters allow you to tweak pretty much everything. Yes, I can get nonwarbly stuff from the chorus. I mean, with all of these parameters and with the tap tempo, you can pretty much do anything. You could put them up against any straight up effect (taking out some of the CRAZY oddball guys) and each setting on the Mobius can go up head to head against that individual pedal and just sound awesome.

I do want to throw in here, I'm not the type of guy that stacks my mods. Those people might not find this guy as useful. I'll put dirt and fuzz with my mods, but for the most part, my mods stand alone.

So yes, it replaces a ton of stuff on my board. Now the big question for me is, will it do the expression stuff I was using the Tremolessence, Faye Sing, and Xero D for? I will be experimenting with this tonight and let you homecanoes, know. I really only made it through half of the presets before three out of five of the babies started crying. But I was able to get the general overall sound of the pedal and I can tell you that each mod holds up as lush, analog, and just downright beautiful.

Now......the Quadrature. That thing is cool and different. It's just a bunch of fun for me, nothing I could utilize, but if I did dub or electronica, this thing would be AWESOME. The Boss GT10B had some things that were similar to this, but it always sounded kinda cheesy where this sounds good.

The Destroyer. Holy ****. I would pay close to $300 for a pedal like this. Maybe there are pedals out there that can do these things.....but man....I've been looking for this for a LOOOOOONG time. I just...want to go into the studio so bad, now. The signal degradation....oooomph.....I just love it. I haven't gotten to mess with it a ton, like I said, three out of five were screaming. But this one mode is going to make so many local band CDs sound so much better.

So for me, I get an amazing setting in the Destroyer, and fun guy the Quad, I've added a lush flanger and chorus I didn't have on my board, the pattern trem, auto swell, and vibes are a'ight, but, most important, I think I've been able to bump my Tremolessence, Faye Sing, Expressionator, and future purchase Xero D off my board.....total savings of almost $300.

what are your thoughts on the filters on this thing?

[MSUsousaphone]

Unfortunately, all I can comment on is how cranky five newborn babies with strep throat are. Really. All five of them have strep throat. Poor little dudes.

[Johno Dunn]

Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone

Unfortunately, all I can comment on is how cranky five newborn babies with strep throat are. Really. All five of them have strep throat. Poor little dudes.

OMG, you have quints?!?!?

[MSUsousaphone]

Yep. In September. They just went to sleep easily so I actually get to jam a bit, tonight. :beer:

[willsellout]

Wow, that is my nightmare. We had one and I'm done. I hope the kiddo's recover quickly and your sleep schedule returns!

[behndy]

lulz@SousieSleepSchedule.

"ooooookkkayyyy.... i've got a 12 minute nap penciled in for March 2013... but that is TENTATIVE."

even with all the stuff i think they really missed by not going with an M9 style box, i'm gonna order one next week. hope they ship quickly. looks like it's WAY better than the TL delay.

[MSUsousaphone]

Yeah. They crazy.

The filters seem great to me. I'm going to be honest with you fellas. I'm not a connoisseur of mods. I actually rather hate them. With my pinky out. The Faye Sing changed my mind on that a bit....like.....the sounds you can get when you combine a fuzz to a filter or phaser and use an expression pedal to get a manual sweep. That's the kinda stuff I do with mods. I might use the occasional light flanger or chorus to get some subtle thickness and color on things....but I don't go crazy on them.

I got the Mobius to do those sweeps with the phaser and filter and also do some cool expression controlled stuff with some tremolo a la the Tremolessence.....and because The Destroyer machine is everything I've ever wanted in a bitcrusher thingy......so all that to say that when it comes to most of these mods, I can tell you that they sound thick and organic and gorgeous but when it comes to all the features and what it can get into, I might not be the best person to get that info from.

I did find a huge negative for me......I haven't found a way to control the sweep of the phaser manually with an expression pedal. You would think that the speed could do that but all that does is change the phaser from long and slow to fast and warbly. I need a way to control the actual sweep with my exp pedal for me to boot the Faye's Sing. Could be a deal breaker.....I dunno. There's a lot of really complex ways you can control parameters, so maybe it's hidden in there somewhere.

[Dark Barn]

Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone

I need a way to control the actual sweep with my exp pedal for me to boot the Faye's Sing. Could be a deal breaker.....I dunno. There's a lot of really complex ways you can control parameters, so maybe it's hidden in there somewhere.

I've been considering hopping on the Mobius after the new year, and I've been assuming the phaser would allow a manual sweep also. Now I'm looking at the owner's manual and it looks like this wasn't included in the phaser engine.

Now I'm also wondering if this works with the filter engine, any owners able to comment? Can you assign the exp jack to the F Mid parameter?

Hopefully Strymon upgrades the firmware to allow this for the phaser, can you current owners start the bitching now so it will be added in before I order mine in January? Thanks!

[behndy]

Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone

..... Everyone was asking that I ship my Mobius to Behndy to let him give you his thoughts on it but....

..... i endorse this plan of action WHOLE-HEARTEDLY.

[mjac28]

I'm fascinated by these effects I just wouldn't have a use for one. I looked at the demos sounds like it can do everything but cook. I know my man MSU will give a very thorough review. I hope the babies recover.

[Swift713]

Am I missing something or does this have no envelope control of anything?

[Hobobob]

Just found this thread, and I must say that this is one of the coolest things I have ever seen. The Destroyer video demo literally had me exclaiming out loud. And the other mods sound soo good in the demos, I don't know how they fit all of this into a single pedal. I've never been so disappointed about being broke .

[Jean Baudin]

Originally Posted by MSUsousaphone

I need a way to control the actual sweep with my exp pedal for me to boot the Faye's Sing. Could be a deal breaker.....I dunno. There's a lot of really complex ways you can control parameters, so maybe it's hidden in there somewhere.

There's no way to manually sweep the phaser like the Faye Sing.

Originally Posted by Dark Barn

Now I'm also wondering if this works with the filter engine, any owners able to comment? Can you assign the exp jack to the F Mid parameter?

You can sweep the F Mid with an Expression pedal by assigning it to one of the Param knobs. However, the sweep is no way near what the Xerograph is capable of. Think of the Mobius as a hill and the Xerograph as a mountain. Anybody considering replacing a Xerograph with the Mobius, better play with it awhile before selling your Xero.

Originally Posted by Swift713

Am I missing something or does this have no envelope control of anything?

The Filter has both a + and - Envelope.

[MSUsousaphone]

Yep. It's been confirmed by Strymon. No control over the sweep. I haven't lost hope, though. It's a cool feature and if enough people ask to have that in an update, I'm sure it can be added.......so please send strymon something telling them how awesome that would be.

Otherwise, the pedal doesn't push my Faye Sing off the board but it DOES replace enough other stuff to justify keeping it......now I have to decide on the Faye Sing.....

[Swift713]

Can the speed of the tremolo, for instance, be controlled by envelope?

[Jean Baudin]

Originally Posted by Swift713

Can the speed of the tremolo, for instance, be controlled by envelope?

No.

[smo]

Can switching between the different effects be changed with the footswitches alone, or do I need to reach down and manually switch the effect via the giant rotary knob?
ie. From a tremelo to a phaser to a destroyer etc etc.?

[Jeff Moote]

Originally Posted by smo

Can switching between the different effects be changed with the footswitches alone, or do I need to reach down and manually switch the effect via the giant rotary knob?
ie. From a tremelo to a phaser to a destroyer etc etc.?

Read the manual. Like the timeline, presets are arranged in banks of 2 accessible via the footswitches and/or MIDI. No need to reach down unless you need to change parameters from the presets.

[behndy]

unnnnnnnnnnng. looks like a supremely beautiful gentleman will be selling me his. i am sad that he didna bond with it, ecstatic that i will have one around mid next week.

WOOOOOOOOOOO!

[karstetterpj]

Anyone know how the Destroyer setting compares with a WMD Geiger Counter? I was looking into getting one of those but if this thing can do all that and a bag of chips, I might have to reconsider my life choices.