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04-17-2008, 02:59 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Coast of Canada | | | Ok, so I think I may be going about this all the wrong way...
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I play bass cus I like it. I also dont play in a band, so I dont need a huge amp.
Im looking at a 410 combo whatever type thing. Problem is, none of them ive looked at have a tube pre. Which is definatly what I want, even if its just for the compression effect that tubes have.
So, Ive been thinking that instead of getting a hugely overpowered (for my situation) pre-power-cab setup, im thinking of getting a pedal pre.
But i want tubes. Ive been thinking about getting a PDDI again, but the problem is that it has cab emulation with it. Are there any pedals like the PDDI (tube, real or emulated, and a 3 band eq, para midrange) but without cab/mic emulation.
Basically a tube pre in a pedal form with EQ. Ive done a couple of searches, but I tend to suck at em so ill do a couple more 
Thanks in advance 
QUick Edit: Bassically im looking to put together an FX/Pre setup on a pedalboard. I can then run it thru a low power amp/cab/combo for practice, and if i ever get into a band I can buy a separate higher powered poweramp/cab for that purpose.
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04-17-2008, 03:35 PM
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04-17-2008, 03:43 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Coast of Canada | | ^  no EQ.
I came upon the EBS Microbass II in my searching. Im just wondering if the signal chain on it goes tube drive -> eq, or the other way around. If i can use channels A and B to get a overdriven tube sound and a 3 band para mid EQ.....
Also, it appears that the speaker sim is only on the DI. A good thing imo, and one thing that has me leaning towards it. Plus MF will ship it to the great white north |
04-17-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielTulip  ^ no EQ. | Forgot it didn't have one |
04-17-2008, 04:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canberra, Australia | | | Are you hung up on a 4x10? I just got a Mesa Walkabout 1x15" and it's the best god damned combo on the planet - I can't believe how loud it is! 2x12AX7 pre - all tube right up to the power amp! And the amp is so musical - it's like that amp and my Stingray should get married or something!!
The M-Pulse Venture 2x12 is even more awesome but comes with a requisite price increase and greater back-breaking potential.
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04-17-2008, 05:06 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Coast of Canada | | | Im not really hung up on a 4x10 per say, but I wouldnt mind being able to have a separate pre so that, when the time comes, I can just get a rediculous wattage poweramp, and some cabs that can handle said wattage. Since im gonna be going with a 4x10 (or 2) with that I figure i might just get a 410 practice combo. I have been thinking of running an Ashdown Electric Blue 12-180 as a practice combo.
Im looking at my tone from the standpoint of portability between setups right now.
I might look into the Mesa, but from what i gather a 15 will sound a lot different than a 10" |
04-17-2008, 05:09 PM
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04-17-2008, 05:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canberra, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielTulip I wouldnt mind being able to have a separate pre...
I might look into the Mesa, but from what i gather a 15 will sound a lot different than a 10" | Most amps have either a pre out, an fx loop out (much the same thing) or a DI out which would all suffice to drive an external power amp. The Walkabout is no exception. In fact, you can even take the amp out of the cabinet easily and sit it on top of whatever speakers you want!
I bought the version with the 8 ohm speaker so I could connect an extension cab. When I hook up my 4x10 with this thing, earth worms all over my neighbourhood start to panic!
Yeah, a 15" is definitely a different sound - that's why I kept my 4x10 and arranged it so it could used with the Walkabout.
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04-17-2008, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian Hartke | Um ahhhh, you swore!
...and forced me to point out that most tube pre's (like the Hartke's) are just buffer and gain stages - the Walkabout is all tube right up to the power amp - tube buffer, tube gain/drive & tube EQ.
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04-17-2008, 05:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston.UK | | purchase one of the 'super light super powerful SS heads', purchase a rackmount tube pre, effects return in, rackmount in a 3space rackunit and your good as gold!
You'll always have the ability to swap any of the three then, as and when you wish if you ever want some more expensive gear! 
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04-17-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian | Is it "illegal" for me to mention that there's one (not a combo but a halfstalk) for sale (with an XL, not VX) in the classifieds? Especially if i'm the one selling it? If that's what piggybacking is then let me know I'll delete or admin can do it for me. I love TB way to much break any rules...
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04-17-2008, 05:31 PM
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04-17-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AqueousView11 Do you want tubes, or will you settle for tube emulation? | I will settle for tube emulation, as long as there is no cab/mic emulation with it.
I am really considering the MicroBass right now. I found some soundclips, and it sounds really nice and "compressed" to my ears.... |
04-17-2008, 05:50 PM
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04-17-2008, 06:29 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | Can't you turn the cab emulation off? I've never used one, but people seem to use them as an effect often, so I would think the cab emulation could be turned off.
Failing that, get whatever combo you want and a tube preamp. You can plug the pre into either the regular input or the effects loop return, which will bypass the amp's preamp. |
04-17-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielTulip I found some soundclips, and it sounds really nice... | Soundclips in the Wiki! Quote:
Originally Posted by conical johnson Can't you turn the cab emulation off? | ...on the EBS? Yep, and it's only on the DI output - not the main output.
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04-17-2008, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by niftydog Soundclips in the Wiki! | Those were  , but I found one that was a comparison to the SABDDI by JazzAd
The MBII sounds a lot more midrange friendly and fatter bassed on that, and on the ones by you.
EDIT: you know, I tottally realize now that i really dont need 2 threads on this thing.... i just get all  ... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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