ooFunk+brown dog?

[chicagodoubler]

Is it worth it? I use an octave pedal to cover synth lines in a wedding band and would like to explore adding some additional funk. Is the combination with the link feature really all that? Anybody got experience a/b ing this combo with other envelope/ gated fuzz combos?

Thanks!!!!

[Kwesi]

It's stupid kinds of sick to me, couldn't imagine my board without them. If I put some clips together I'll post 'em but check out Ed Friedlands demo here:

Chunk Systems Brown Dog and Agent 00 Funk Mark II Pedals - YouTube

[Jared Lash]

I love the way the two work in combination. Very synthy fuzz and a very synthy filter and they pair up for a ton of great sounds. The envelope connection between the two basically makes it such that the filter still reacts to your clean playing dynamics instead of the very compressed fuzz sound.

Put an octave in front of the pair and you have a very solid synthy funk board.

[spufman]

I recently picked up the pair and really love the variety of cool tones. Connecting with the envelope jack is definitely the way to go, much more interactivity and craziness with the twiddling, though it makes using the filter on its own (without the BD adding fuzz) a little inconvenient. But I say a absolute yes. Also, check out some threads on the Iron Ether Oxide+XerographDlx which sounds like another fantastic combo.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by spufman

I recently picked up the pair and really love the variety of cool tones. Connecting with the envelope jack is definitely the way to go, much more interactivity and craziness with the twiddling, though it makes using the filter on its own (without the BD adding fuzz) a little inconvenient. But I say a absolute yes. Also, check out some threads on the Iron Ether Oxide+XerographDlx which sounds like another fantastic combo.

Yeah, the envelope connection rocks but you hit on the one drawback of the setup. I either unplugged it when I wanted to use the 00Funk by itself or I just turned the BD's fuzz level all the way down and put the clean up to match unity gain.

The Oxide/Xero combo is pretty amazing too. I also dig Brown Dog/Xerograph. I'd love it if the Xerograph had an effects loop or input trigger - would make an amazing filter pretty much perfect.

[Kwesi]

I don't use the envelope connection because I need to be able to use each pedal separately but the Brown Dog into the 00Funk still sounds fantastic.

[gastric]

If you don't mind a seriously steep learning curve consider the Octavius Squeezer. It's basically a Brown Dog, filter, VCO, and a couple of signal mixers in one programmable pedal. Same size as just one of those pedals, but has all the functionality and more, presets, LFO applied after a time delay so you can get normal funky filter sounds before it goes into a wob-wob-wob or a milder vibrato type sound, beat synced filters (haven't personally tried the beat syncing via tap tempo yet). Offers a lot more possibilities over the pedals individually due to the signal routing.

Filter > Fuzz
Fuzz > Filter
Clean > Filter blended with Clean > Fuzz
And on and on.

I spend almost a dozen hours ripping my hair out trying to get a hold of programming the thing. But now I can bang out some pretty fun sounds. The filter on this bad boy is totally fat-n-funky. Stick a bitcrush after and you get those badass formant sounds. OC-2 into the fuzz and then some chorus and instant square synth.

I have a page on the Squeezer with sound samples and a variety of patches you can download and instantly use.

[naruki]

The 00 is the biggest piece of **** pedal I've ever used. Maybe its because of my 18V pre-amp. Idk, I'm selling mine soon, once I'm free enough to get some pictures of it.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by naruki

The 00 is the biggest piece of **** pedal I've ever used. Maybe its because of my 18V pre-amp. Idk, I'm selling mine soon, once I'm free enough to get some pictures of it.

Hmm, I used the 00Funk with 2 very hot basses and with some tweaks it worked fine.

What issues are you running into?

[Kwesi]

Originally Posted by naruki

The 00 is the biggest piece of **** pedal I've ever used. Maybe its because of my 18V pre-amp. Idk, I'm selling mine soon, once I'm free enough to get some pictures of it.

LOL! It it's a pretty fickle filter that's for sure. Takes more fine tuning than any other I've ever used. You just have to be patient. Also, a preamp being 18V doesn't have much of a connection to it's output, only headroom. All of my current basses are hot as hell and only one is 18V, it still rocked with the 00Funk though.

[naruki]

Originally Posted by Jared Lash

Hmm, I used the 00Funk with 2 very hot basses and with some tweaks it worked fine.

What issues are you running into?

What issues am I not running into? D: sorry if I sound like a dick, the 00 Funk just really annoys me haha

[Mound of Sound]

Just sold my 00Funk and BD to Darkbass a couple of weeks ago. I'm regretting it.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by naruki

What issues am I not running into? D: sorry if I sound like a dick, the 00 Funk just really annoys me haha

Yes, but why?

If it's that you hate the sound, I can understand that. I loved it but it's all personal preference. But if you're not getting it to work properly then I could probably give you some advice. Or if the unit isn't functioning correctly, you should be contacting Chunk.

[naruki]

Originally Posted by Mound of Sound

Just sold my 00Funk and BD to Darkbass a couple of weeks ago. I'm regretting it.

I traded with him for your pedals and I'm regretting it

Originally Posted by Jared Lash

Yes, but why?

If it's that you hate the sound, I can understand that. I loved it but it's all personal preference. But if you're not getting it to work properly then I could probably give you some advice. Or if the unit isn't functioning correctly, you should be contacting Chunk.

I got it from a trade. I'm sick of tweaking it.

[Kwesi]

Originally Posted by naruki

I got it from a trade. I'm sick of tweaking it.

Nature of the beast, man. I can totally understand why someone would hate it. I did for the first two weeks I owned it, lol. I was so convinced that something was wrong with it that I bought another on on TB and compared the two. Result? No difference. Equally as infuriating . After messing with it more I've gotten used to it and found out how awesome it is. It's not going anywhere now.

[Jared Lash]

Yeah, I remember that Kwesi. In fact a quick search shows that I posted in your thread asking for help with it.

Here's what I said in that thread:

Originally Posted by Jared Lash

Some hints for the 00Funk.

The Sweep knob is the key with this pedal. Put it all the way to the left to begin.

Start with the Pitch all the way to the left, the smoothness a bit past noon and the Squelch a bit to the left, around 10 o'clock.

Play through the pedal and gradually increase the Sweep until the pedal opens up the way you want. Too far and the filter is all the way open and won't respond at all.

Once the sweep is where you want based on your bass' input and your dynamics you should have a smooth, not too wet filter sound. This is closest to the Groove Regulator tone that you can get with the Chunk.

At this point you can turn up the tone if you want but you must dial back the Sweep a bit to compensate. Turning up the Smoothness gives a bigger, harder to open envelope and dialing it back gives a more "bubbly", easier to open filter.

Turning up the Squelch gives more synthy gurgles.

But again, the key is setting the Sweep and Tone (which requires Sweep adjustments when you change it) to where the filter opens up when you want.

At that point the Smoothness and Squelch just change the character and sounds you get out of the 00Funk.

Hope that helps.

[chicagodoubler]

Naruki,

If you wanna sell the pair hit me up on private message. I've got some good trades too, including the legendary prunes and custard, a Boss syb-2, and Mxr m-80.

[spufman]

Originally Posted by Jared Lash

I either unplugged it when I wanted to use the 00Funk by itself or I just turned the BD's fuzz level all the way down and put the clean up to match unity gain.

Exactly what I've been doing! But the untriggered filter sound is kinda cool as a token bonus.