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Old 08-15-2008, 10:33 PM
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Unhappy Open E on a BMS?

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I've had my XO BMS for about a month now, and the only complaint I have is that it has a lot of trouble with my low open E. There's no problem with any of the other open strings, and no problem on the F on the first fret. On the E, it registers the attack multiple times, coming out all muddy and farty, and there's no way around it with just an adjustment of the trigger slider. So I was wondering if someone could help me choose one of these options:

- I suck and my technique playing the open E sucks. I deserve the sound I get because I'm not keeping the sting in control.

- There's something wrong with the set up of my bass.

- BMSs have trouble with Low E's

Really, I'd just like to know if they're finicky on open E for anyone else, or if I can fix this by working on my playing. It's a pretty annoying problem.

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Old 08-15-2008, 10:43 PM
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- BMSs have trouble with Low E's
At least you got down to F, I had trouble past the fretted A.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:46 PM
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Drop the string to D and play the second fret. Does it still make the same noise?
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Wow, I guess I'm pretty dumb for not trying that. Will do.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:07 AM
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All the usual tips apply: Play the note cleanly, no noise from other strings, no fret rattle, solo your front pup, etc. It will improve performance but when you get down that low all pedals have issues with note tracking.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:15 AM
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It's for stuff like this that I love EHX.
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:05 AM
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This is part of the reason that I sold my BMS. I'm a 5 string player and it just wouldn't track my bottom 6 notes.

My akai deep impact manages to get down to my low B without problems, maybe it's a shortcoming of analogue tracking?


By the way, kevteop I think it was you I sold my BMS to via ebay, have you been enjoying the pedal?
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:54 AM
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Hmm... I'm having a similar problem with my DOD FX25 (3rd gen) where it won't trigger that well on lower notes on some basses, but especially the open E, though it doesn't trigger perfectly up til G sharp.

What happens if you let up the sensitivity/trigger? Interesting if the same thing happens as on my '25...
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:27 PM
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Mine becomes funky by F#, but the effect can be cool. I use it for the closing note to a bass intro I do. Sounds kinda evil.
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:34 PM
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I wonder what the major determinate of where it starts to glitch up is? The bass, the particular settings on the BMS or technique?
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:40 PM
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perhaps put a compressor before the BMS? see what that does.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:23 PM
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I wonder what the major determinate of where it starts to glitch up is? The bass, the particular settings on the BMS or technique?
I'm going with the octave down.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:15 PM
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We've discussed this "issue" a lot on here in the last few months...

My solutions:
1. Don't have the suboctave set so low for when you're playing notes on your B string below E
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2. Don't set the stop frequency as low
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3. Play a higher note and set the suboctave and stop frequency low and allow the suboctave to do the suboctave work


I have different settings for every song that I use my BMS in and I tend to not set it for the super low suboctaves when I'm play anything on my B string below the E, otherwise as you all know, it sounds like you're underwater...
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:29 PM
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same issue with the hog- its definitely the octave down thing. 10 seconds playing with the 2 octave down slider and its pretty obvious. as someone mentioned earlier- the chaos can be useful.
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:10 PM
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Yeah my BMS does the warble on the open E. not a biggy.
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By the way, kevteop I think it was you I sold my BMS to via ebay, have you been enjoying the pedal?
Yes it was and yes I have! It's still on my board, tucked away at the back where I can't kick it or fall on it.
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