overdrive and new effects help

[dubist]

time to add some effects to the line up. been playing clean for years and that always worked with the old band and my bass learning experience. now i have some new projects that are requiring some more range in effects and sounds.
new band plays a dub math-rock blend
looking for some light to medium OD and some feed back type effect and someway of filling in the deepbass for reggae type lines. was reading about the taBASSco. what you think of this pedel?
i own a 1980's tnt 130 15" and a godin freeway active.
i used to use a roland gt-6b i still have some where but no adapter and never messed with it much and a boss phaser.
what does the smashing pumpkins bass player uses. i should know his/her name. and for the dub sound bill laswell type bass effects. i also like lake trout and don cabilaro bass sounds.
i do have the gt 6b do u think that could fill these rolls or would i get better effects from single boxes
any and all comments welcome

cheers
DubIst

[dubist]

i use flat wound strings. from an old bass never changed them. so they 6 years old??

would it make sense to have a eq pedel set to a reggae eq (cut the mids) when i want to go deep. is there anything else i need for the dub sound?

[dubist]

or should i just get a new amp first.
i mean the tnt 130 doesn't suck and it fills the size of rooms and bars i play. i just got a new cone put in.
it is the only amp i have ever owned . any suggestions?

[Mark Olson]

I'd seriously look at trying some different amps. And a passive jazz bass if you want dub tones. Flats are great. You may even want to try some tapewound flats.

[bigchiefbc]

As for effects, people who play dub usually use a low pass filter (like the Moog perhaps), and maybe a fat octave down, like the Boss OC-2. For overdrive, there are so many of them out there, it's almost hard to recommend one. Most overdrives used around here are either modified/based on the Tubescreamer, or are amp emulators like the Tech 21 line. I'm using two overdrives at the moment, the Tech 21 Leeds (Hiwatt emulator) and the McSpunkle And Aardvarks, which is a cool mosfet boost/light overdrive.

[sonic assassin]

if your bass is active, you really dont need an EQ pedal to cut your mids. just reach down and do so.

id say an octave or 2 down will fill in the deep parts. OC-2 seems to be the favorite here. idk much about filters, but you'll likely need one of those too. and i agree with bigchief. entirely too many OD pedals to just start throwing them out there.

[Matt Dean]

I second bigchief's suggestion. I play in a dub band and the OC2 along with an Iron Oxide Xerograph low pass/envelope filter are an essential part of my sound. I roll back the frequency control on my filter to achieve suppa low freq dub tones by cutting out the high frequency part of the signal.

[dubist]

for he dub sound do i need Xerograph deluxe or xenograph?
whats another good octive pedel?

[dubist]

was reading about the taBASSco. what you think of this OD pedel?
was looking for a OD in this range light to midium over drive. nohing to heavy.

thanks for the great advice.

[Matt Dean]

A non-deluxe Xerograph will do the job.

Other popular octave pedals include: MXR BOD, Aguilar Octamizer, and Foxrox Octron

[dubist]

Originally Posted by Matt Dean

A non-deluxe Xerograph will do the job.

Other popular octave pedals include: MXR BOD, Aguilar Octamizer, and Foxrox Octron

just bought the standard xerograph.

now looking for an overdrive and an octave generator.

[dubist]

anyone know what the smashing pumpkins bass players bass effects are on Siamese dreams? i remember they were using a p-bass. love that bass sound. what would be the best way to recreate that sound from a pedal. would i need an amp emulator..

Cheers

[bigchiefbc]

I don't believe there are any effects on the bass on that album, other than maybe compression. D'arcy used both jazz and p basses, and I've seen pictures of her using both Trace Elliot and Mesa amps around that time. But that's only live shots. Billy actually did almost all the bass parts on the album, so who knows what the hell he used.

[dubist]

i guess playing clean for the last 6 years has played its part in my tone preference.
the members of my new badn are pushing me to get new effects.

[Matt Dean]

Since you got the (IMO) top o the line filter, I'll recommend the (IMO) top o the line overdrive: DARKGLASS B3K.

[Eric!]

RUSTY BOX

[dubist]

whats the difference between Overdrive and Fuzz and Distortion?
is fuzz a more funk style effect.

i will look up those pedals..

[dubist]

Originally Posted by Matt Dean

Since you got the (IMO) top o the line filter, I'll recommend the (IMO) top o the line overdrive: DARKGLASS B3K.

where does the b3x fit on this chart?
Effects Distortion Overdrive Fuzz - TalkBass Wiki
sounds like kinda what i am looking for.

the rusty box sounds pretty cool aswell.

[Matt Dean]

The B3K is an overdrive... it does low gain through fairly high gain distortion. Like the rusty box (very good pre/overdrive too) it doesn't color the tone of your rig with it's own signature tone like an SFT or VT. So, they sound bright or aggressive to many ears.

I use it to give my tone an overdriven tube like breakup.

[dubist]

Originally Posted by Matt Dean

it doesn't color the tone of your rig with it's own signature tone like an SFT or VT.

what does SFT or VT mean?

thanks for the great advice