pedal for Black Sabbath sound?

[Youngspanion]

I'm trying to cop the sound of Geezer Butler on NIB/Behind the Wall of Sleep. Any one have any insight as to what pedal would work?

thanks

[dannybuoy]

A Tycobrahe wah pedal and an old knackered amp with blown speakers turned up to 11! There's plenty of Geezer threads around if you search for them too.

[staindbass]

you want an auto wah, sometimes callen an envelope filter. its an automatic wah wah pedal , so you get a wah every time you pluck a note, instead of having to rock your foot on a real one. johnny a.

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by staindbass

you want an auto wah, sometimes callen an envelope filter. its an automatic wah wah pedal , so you get a wah every time you pluck a note, instead of having to rock your foot on a real one. johnny a.

But that won't produce the right result... it doesn't open and close on every note in that song. A manual wah is the effective solution to do it correctly.

Also, autowah is NOT the same as an envelope filter. An autowah usually sounds like wah pedal, but has a cyclical sweep with a set rate (like a phaser or flanger). An envelope filter responds to attack, and many of them can often sound very different than a wah pedal.

Anyhow...

The general Geezer formula... it's largely dependent on your technique and using a P-bass. N.I.B. is unique because of the wah and extra drive coming from a beat-up rig. Feel free to search threads on Geezer Butler if you want to get the exact details. IIRC, a Tycobrahe wah is what he's currently using for his wah sound. I forget the rig details...

[fretlessman71]

Yep - get a wah wah pedal, and think "heel-toe". Heel on one, toe on two, heel on 3 and toe on 4. You're just rocking your foot to the beat for the most part. There are a few subtle changes but that gets you the basic concept.