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Old 10-23-2011, 06:46 PM
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'Evening,

I use a small pedalboard and have 1 spot left, so I'm currently looking for a single pedal that offers 2 effects.

The EHX Stereo Electric Mistress is sorta the type of pedal I'm looking for (as per size and function), but I prefer phaser to flanger (chorus is an almost must) and am a little put off by the fact that it seems to require its own power supply.

Any other options ?

EDIT: looking for modulation or ambiance type effects, which are usually at the end of the chain. I currently go BASS > Boss TU-2 > Digitech BSW > Boss LS-2 (DOD FX25b and EHX Bassballs looped in) > SansAmp PBDDI > AMP.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:04 PM
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The reason chorus and flanger are so often found together in one pedal is because they are built on the exact same circuit. Phaser is "different enough" that it is not typically combined that way.

That's for analog circuits though--with digital, anything is possible. So for example the Line6 M5 might work for you. But it might be bigger than you wanted.

The Pigtronix EP combines phaser and filter... 'course it is big too.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:12 PM
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'Evening,

I use a small pedalboard and have 1 spot left, so I'm currently looking for a single pedal that offers 2 effects.

The EHX Stereo Electric Mistress is sorta the type of pedal I'm looking for (as per size and function), but I prefer phaser to flanger (chorus is an almost must) and am a little put off by the fact that it seems to require its own power supply.

Any other options ?
The Stereo Electric Mistress definitely does not require its own supply. I've run it off of the same 1spot with many other pedals for years.

As for a pedal that has phaser and that also does a couple other things, the EHX Worm comes to mind. That pedal however, DOES require it's own wall wart (something crazy like 40VDC).
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:53 PM
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The reason chorus and flanger are so often found together in one pedal is because they are built on the exact same circuit. Phaser is "different enough" that it is not typically combined that way.

That's for analog circuits though--with digital, anything is possible. So for example the Line6 M5 might work for you. But it might be bigger than you wanted.
Didn't know about the flanger-choruse connections, thx ! The M5 is a bit bigger than what I have in mind, but I'll take a closer look at it. Certainly contains everything I'm looking for.


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The Stereo Electric Mistress definitely does not require its own supply. I've run it off of the same 1spot with many other pedals for years.

As for a pedal that has phaser and that also does a couple other things, the EHX Worm comes to mind. That pedal however, DOES require it's own wall wart (something crazy like 40VDC).
Mistress: good to know about the power supply. Also, any volume or low-end loss issues ?

Worm: looked at it, but the 24v power requirement is a deal breaker for me.

To both: thx for the replies.

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Old 10-23-2011, 09:05 PM
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Mistress: good to know about the power supply. Also, any volume or low-end loss issues ?

Worm: looked at it, but the 24v power requirement is a deal breaker for me.

To both: thx for the replies.

I've never thought the Mistress cut lows or volume on any reasonable settings, but I will say that it gets really wacky when either of the depth knobs are high up. Particularly when the flanger depth is above 2:00 or so, it gets really metallic and notchy, and may start cutting out frequencies all over the place. I tend to use it on the more wacky settings, but I realize that my uses are not the norm. But if you keep both of the depth knobs down around noon or so, it can do good "normal" flanger and chorus tones.
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:11 PM
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I used to own a worm and would love to have another. It made my old BMS sound great and even that can be used a BUNCH of ways...fuzz, filter, attack delay, synth, octave...

My Boss OC-2 can be used as an octaver or for a clean buffer. Not much of a volume spike but there's at least some extra bump in that brown box if I ever need a buffer at the beginning of my chain.

I play a bassballs, great filter, great fuzz.


I play a pigtronix disnortion that is 3 different dirts, 2 of them being parallel.

I play a Pigtronix EP-1, phaser and EF...

My Eden WTDI has a compressor...I can use it to shape my tone with EQ or sweeten/smooth out my signal (and/or)


Not that I use all of my pedals in every way imaginable but for a suitcase sized pedalboard with 5 effects I think it's pretty versatile and worth the weight.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:28 AM
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I replaced my Electric Mistress with the TC Electronic Nova Modulator. It has two effect engines which can each do the full range of modulation effects. You can synch the LFOs and run the classic EM flanger/chorus sound, or replace the flanger with the phaser if you wish.

You can even get to filter matrix mode by turning down the rate to zero, and then moving the predelay control around to get the different comb effects.

As long as you have enough amperage coming out of your power supply, you can also run this thing off the same 9 volt supply as your other pedals. I don't have time right now to look up the post on the TC forums, but a TC technician posted about how it works and doesn't hurt the pedal. I've found it to be true.

Since getting the Nova Modulator, I've not wanted another modulation pedal other than the MythFX Triton, which is a tiny little 1590A box which can switch between tremelo, chorus, flanger and phaser (only one at a time, though!). I bought it for an ultra-compact board, with all 1590A pedals....
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:15 AM
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... and have 1 spot left, .
had the same problem....for long i busted my head what to do with that ugly spot,and what pedal do i need(and there's always one more 'must have'),so get this-i had a guy built me a bass parametric eq(damn sturdy and very good tonewise),but he made it a bit bigger,just so it can fill the gap in the p.board....the result-my pedalboard looks xtra cool,plus,i have enough space INSIDE the parametric eq,so i can smuggle weed when crossing borders
not that i'm giving u ideas or anything....just had to share with someone...hope you all won't tell on me
anyways,i hail your need for a 2-in-1 pedal,and one o' my fav. is mxr phase 90,very versatile,and you have (well,sort of) 3 different effects when pushing the pot left to right...
way left it sounds almost like flange,way right is some weird vibrato-phasing,and middle is chorusy sound....but i guess you already ruled that one out....
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:48 PM
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had the same problem....for long i busted my head what to do with that ugly spot,and what pedal do i need(and there's always one more 'must have'),so get this-i had a guy built me a bass parametric eq(damn sturdy and very good tonewise),but he made it a bit bigger,just so it can fill the gap in the p.board....the result-my pedalboard looks xtra cool,plus,i have enough space INSIDE the parametric eq,so i can smuggle weed when crossing borders
not that i'm giving u ideas or anything....just had to share with someone...hope you all won't tell on me
pics, dude, pics !

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anyways,i hail your need for a 2-in-1 pedal,and one o' my fav. is mxr phase 90,very versatile,and you have (well,sort of) 3 different effects when pushing the pot left to right... way left it sounds almost like flange,way right is some weird vibrato-phasing,and middle is chorusy sound....but i guess you already ruled that one out....
I read about that here somewhere, but a few guys (including me) expressed doubts about that. I will check it out though, I read that pedal (assuming its the block logo) reacts real well to basses.

Thx !
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:59 AM
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pics, dude, pics !



I read about that here somewhere, but a few guys (including me) expressed doubts about that. I will check it out though, I read that pedal (assuming its the block logo) reacts real well to basses.

Thx !
will be posting pics soon,and about mxr phase90...i remember that thread...actually,i got flamed for saying that phase90 can be used as a flanger...but i STILL think that your average listening Joe Schmuck would not know the difference beetween the two,and i kinda like the versatility of mxr...it IS phaser ofc,but somehow sounds different then every other i tried...that speed knob is wicked...
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maybe if you take that marshall regenerator pedal(assuming it's analog) and mod it a bit,you'll get somewhere...if my memory serves me,it has flanger,chorus and something else...then again,those marshall series are a bit flanky....dunno..
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:49 AM
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DVK Tech makes dual function pedals. I thought the gold top looked interesting, It is a "Fuzz / vibe multicolor effects pedal" according to their description. A bit pricey though... to me. Not sure what else they make / combine, but it might be worth a look to see if anything interests you.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:53 PM
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maybe if you take that marshall regenerator pedal(assuming it's analog) and mod it a bit,you'll get somewhere...if my memory serves me,it has flanger,chorus and something else...then again,those marshall series are a bit flanky....dunno..
Interesting option ! I'll look into it to see how it works with bass, but it has all the modulation effects I want.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:11 PM
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bump.

Any other suggestions ?
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Boss RV-3 has delay and reverb together. May not be what your looking for but its still a cool little pedal.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:48 PM
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Boss RV-3 has delay and reverb together. May not be what your looking for but its still a cool little pedal.
Should've mentionned in my original post that I had one and sold it. Not much of a reverb and delay guy. It is a cool pedal and is exactly the format I'm looking for. My bad, thx for the suggestion.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:23 PM
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Here are a few pedals that I've tried/owned that combine effects:

Boss RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay: (as mentioned): reverb and delay!
EHX Bass Micro Synth:fuzz,filter,octave,slow gear,dirty octave up)
Boss FZ-2:Hyper Fuzz: Not only has 3 fuzz modes but a clean boost
Boss PS-3: Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay: harmonies, delay, whammy, detune, reverse delay
EHX POG2: octave up/down, slow gear, and you can make cello sounds,flute,organ and more.....


hope that helps!
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:26 PM
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:54 PM
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yeah, this helps a lot, thx.
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