Pedal Effects Loop with Volume Pedals

[Robertron]

Would a volume pedal work like a volume knob if you were to put a volume pedal in the effects loop of a pedal with an effects loop but no volume knob, like 3Leaf Audio's Groove Regulator?

[Taylor Livingston]

If you want to control output volume, just put the volume pedal after the GR in your chain. There's no reason to put it in the effects loop.

[cheapbasslovin]

Yes, it would control your volume. On the 3 leaf you could use it to cut out your initial attack and bring up the sound as the filter decays. It's a pretty neat sound on the right settings.

[Taylor Livingston]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

Yes, it would control your volume. On the 3 leaf you could use it to cut out your initial attack and bring up the sound as the filter decays. It's a pretty neat sound on the right settings.

But the exact same thing would be achieved by just putting the volume pedal after the GR. With one less cable.

The effects loop is for using a more dynamic version of your signal - clean instrument - to trigger the envelope detector, while filtering a more harmonic-rich version of your signal with more compressed dynamics. So usually a distortion goes in the loop, which creates more harmonics for the filter to carve up, but the distorted signal has lower dynamic range, so the loop is used to derive the envelope from the clean signal.

[cheapbasslovin]

Originally Posted by conical johnson

But the exact same thing would be achieved by just putting the volume pedal after the GR. With one less cable.

The effects loop is for using a more dynamic version of your signal - clean instrument - to trigger the envelope detector, while filtering a more harmonic-rich version of your signal with more compressed dynamics. So usually a distortion goes in the loop, which creates more harmonics for the filter to carve up, but the distorted signal has lower dynamic range, so the loop is used to derive the envelope from the clean signal.

Yeah, its late . I've done this with my Bass Microsynth and HOG. Both have attack delays on them and it's super bitchin' to work that with my Qtron+. I was thinking of a volume as the same as my attack delay and didn't really think of all the pieces that lead to that sound.

Time for sleep.

[Deluge Of Sound]

Originally Posted by Robertron

Would a volume pedal work like a volume knob if you were to put a volume pedal in the effects loop of a pedal with an effects loop but no volume knob, like 3Leaf Audio's Groove Regulator?

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck funky pedal?