Pickle Pie B vs.

Venom of God · #1 01-21-2011, 02:03 AM

Right now the most grit I can get is from my SansAmp BDDI, and to be honest that's probably enough for the band I'm in, but I'm ready to buy something with more balls to play around with!

To begin with I was just thinking about getting some sort of Muff, but then discovered and loved the sound of the Woolly Mammoth, but after discovering the cost of it I don't think it's worth it for me right now. Now I'm highly considering and almost just ordered a Pickle Pie B, but thought that I'd make a thread and get some opinions first!

Any experience with this pedal here? Any alternatives you might recommend? I want something that pretty much punches people in the face!

Thanks!

Venom of God · #2 01-21-2011, 04:13 AM

The Phat Phuck B is also looking a bit tempting to replace my current Morrison Booster pedal, I only use it when there is a guitar solo going on (we're a three piece) but it's pretty transparent.. the extra grit there could be cool.

Any thoughts on running that after my SansAmp just during solos? Experience with it?

**bassboysam** · #3 01-21-2011, 05:06 AM

Haven't tried the PPB yet but I did try the Phat Phuk. With a passive bass I got virtually zero distortion or drive from the pedal. It stayed really clean and quite transparent. More transparent than my MXR Micro Amp. It will push a tube amp into OD but if you are expecting grind from the pedal itself it may not be what you are looking for.

Venom of God · #4 01-21-2011, 06:16 AM

Thanks for that, both my basses are passive (and I have no plans for an active at this stage) so I'll stick with what I've got for a booster then!

The Pickle Pie B is really tempting me with these Youtube vids..

kevteop · #5 01-21-2011, 06:54 AM

The PPB is an excellent bass fuzz if you like the Muff sound.

The Woolly Mammoth is more gnarly, nasal, grindy fuzz. Gets pretty tiring on the ears to be honest and it really only does full-on wall-of-fuzz, but the gated effect from the 'pinch' control is a novelty.

I ended up trading the PPB for a Woolly Mammoth because I thought it was more the sort of fuzz I was after. I was right, but not quite, so I got rid of the Woolly Mammoth and started using the gated fuzz in my Octavius Squeezer instead. Sort-of wish I'd kept the PPB though, I don't really have a use for one but it was a nice pedal.

JamesHommersen · #6 01-21-2011, 06:57 AM

Check out the sound samples on the Wren and Cuff site:
http://wrenandcuff.com/site/listening-room/

My PPB just cam in the other day. Holy crap, this thing is unreal! You can get so many tones out of it.

Matt Dean · #7 01-21-2011, 09:19 AM

Check out the Tri Pie 70 clips in the Wren and Cuff website... I prefer that version of muff over the PPB. Also, Matt has a new one coming out... the Tall Font Russian.

Valerus · #8 01-21-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

Haven't tried the PPB yet but I did try the Phat Phuk. With a passive bass I got virtually zero distortion or drive from the pedal. It stayed really clean and quite transparent. More transparent than my MXR Micro Amp. It will push a tube amp into OD but if you are expecting grind from the pedal itself it may not be what you are looking for.

My Phat Phuk is tube-driven overdrive goodness. Not sure what your setup is but mine gets a low-overdrive really easily.

**bassboysam** · #9 01-21-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Valerus

My Phat Phuk is tube-driven overdrive goodness. Not sure what your setup is but mine gets a low-overdrive really easily.

Passive p-basses and rics. It certainly dirtied up the amp, but it did not add its own drive or character. Just a volume boost is what I got.

Valerus · #10 01-21-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

Passive p-basses and rics. It certainly dirtied up the amp, but it did not add its own drive or character. Just a volume boost is what I got.

Weird. Sorry to hear that.

dannybuoy · #11 01-21-2011, 12:50 PM

I'd run the booster before the Sansamp personally, and the BB Preamp sounds awesome going into a Sansamp or VT Bass. I want to try out the Phat Phuk though!

Modulator · #12 01-21-2011, 02:49 PM

Phat Phuck into a VT Bass is really sweet. The VT Bass does my grit, the Phat Phuck drives it into grindy Geddyish territory.

Flymo Wang · #13 01-22-2011, 09:26 AM

looking forward to trying the phat phuk into my BB preamp, when the little bugger gets through customs

Wren and Cuff · #14 01-22-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bassboysam

Haven't tried the PPB yet but I did try the Phat Phuk. With a passive bass I got virtually zero distortion or drive from the pedal. It stayed really clean and quite transparent. More transparent than my MXR Micro Amp. It will push a tube amp into OD but if you are expecting grind from the pedal itself it may not be what you are looking for.

If you want more drive/breakup, you can tweak the trim-pot inside. all you need is a mini flat-head screw-driver...

**bassboysam** · #15 01-22-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wren and Cuff

If you want more drive/breakup, you can tweak the trim-pot inside. all you need is a mini flat-head screw-driver...

Now you tell me

. Ended up going with the cream pie for my OD needs. Maybe I'll revisit the PP one day.

Wren and Cuff · #16 01-22-2011, 05:35 PM

It mentions it in the paperwork. Although I HIGHLY encourage people to not mess with it, as I tune/bias these by ear myself, even when my employees build them, as opposed to a fuzzface which is biased by voltage usually. But due to different setups, temps, etc there can be slight differences in the breakup. Especially when setting for a slight breakup etc.
Again, if you own one, and are happy with it, please leave it alone! Resist the temptation to start fiddling. But if it's just too clean for your tastes, you can give it a tweak. You won't hurt anything...
Did you not get the paperwork Bassboy?

**bassboysam** · #17 01-22-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wren and Cuff

Did you not get the paperwork Bassboy?

No I got it here on TB and I don't believe there was any paperwork.

Wren and Cuff · #18 01-22-2011, 05:55 PM

sorry man! You can always try again someday!

Venom of God · #19 02-13-2011, 09:40 AM

My girlfriend is getting me the Pickle Pie B for my birthday this week! Super excited for my first ever fuzz pedal! Just out of curiosity, would I put it before or after my SansAmp BDDI in my signal chain? Looks like this:

Bass>tuner>SansAmp>Chorus>Booster

Thanks!

Unrepresented · #20 02-13-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Venom of God

My girlfriend is getting me the Pickle Pie B for my birthday this week! Super excited for my first ever fuzz pedal! Just out of curiosity, would I put it before or after my SansAmp BDDI in my signal chain? Looks like this:

Bass>tuner>SansAmp>Chorus>Booster

Thanks!

I really enjoy cascading my Pickle Pie B into a mild overdrive to highlight some of the midrange that the muff style design naturally scoops. The PPB is nice on its own, but I feel it really shines when an additional dirt stage does a mild reshape of the eq.