Power tube like OD pedal- Badder Monkey, Fulltone bassdrive..

[rodl2005]

I got a SVTII(non-PRO) & I wanna get a overdrive pref. the same(or as close as poss to) as the sound of the SVTII sounds when the volume is CRANKED!!!!!
Should I be looking at one of these :-
Badder Monkey-Bass one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....id=p2761.l1259

Fulltone Bass Drive

Sansamp VT pedal- the new one!

Please bear in mind I'm in Aus. & as an Example the SA VT pedal is RRP $299 here!!! So IF that IS the pedal to get I'd probly look at either paying that much here OR get one from USA

Any views would be a great help! Thanx.
Rod

[kringle77]

Having owned all of those, I would say that the Fulltone or Bass VT would get you there. Both are great for that sound. The BAss VT may be alittle closer.

[rodl2005]

The Badder Monkey-Bass- not that type??

[bongomania]

TBH the only pedal I've ever heard or used that really sounds like driven power tubes is the BJFE Blueberry. It's hella expensive, but if you're already considering an exorbitant price for a Sansamp, may as well consider the best.

Other overdrives may be good enough for you, and certainly the cost-benefit ratio may make most other pedals plenty "good enough" for most people.

[nad]

Fulltone Bass Drive sounds nothing like power tubes, I don't know why people continue to say this. Either that or I just suck at finding that particular setting, but I had one for a few years and could never get it anywhere close.

Listen to bongo. BJFE Blue Berry sounds like power tubes distorting. Period. If something else exists to get that sound, and it very well might, I have yet to experience it.

[pulse]

I think the OP is trying to find something that helps his amp reach that sound, rather than the pedal doing all the work on its own, its more like a little helper to get the SVT roaring

with this in mind which pedal is the best at doing this?

for example a svt simulation going into an svt tends to sound odd to my ears (harsh and hella scooped)

[bongomania]

The problem is that most overdrive pedals just sound like preamp tubes overdriving, and if you put any sort of boost in front of the amp without cranking the power section, you'll just be driving the preamp tubes anyway.

However you're right that an amp simulator feeding into an SVT would not sound quite right either.

It would almost make more sense to get a smaller, less colored amp for the lower-volume gigs, and feed it with a good amp sim pedal, rather than trying to get the cranked-SVT sound from a non-cranked SVT. This is why there are loads of threads in the "amps" forum about small low-wattage tube amps- everyone wants the sound, but nobody wants the loudness at practice or at smaller gigs.

[DaveF]

The badder bass monkey is SUPER badass, but it doesn't really have that top-end "crunch" and doesn't really emulate the SVT-II.

[pulse]

what if you crank the output tubes and lower the input signal?

so you dont go deaf but run the system hot, is this the same result?

[TrevorOfDoom]

perhaps an EHX English Muff'n?

and where can i get a BJFE Blueberry?

[rodl2005]

Thanx for replys guys........ All are very helpful
- Pulse-d'ya mean crank the amp flat out & run the signal from the bass guitar low????? If so this IIRC simply acts as tho U aren't cranking the power amp! Part of it seems to BE the cranked Bass!!! Like using mt Active 'ray into the SVT2 dirty's up earlier than the passive P & any backing off of the vol control on either bass simply causes the 'dirty' to clean up it's act!

BTW BJFE??? Blueberry.....??? Dunno re these here in underside of world. Do know how to start fire tho!
;-)

Bongo- I DO have a V4BH & this does sound good OD-ing, either pre OR power tubes, but I Just LIKE the SVT2 & IF -by chance- there are pedals that CAN make a sound darn close to the sound of SVTII going for it then I'd like to have one for use w/ ALL volumes & amps! This raspberry thang PLEASE tell me more, Links?????

[pulse]

yeah I dunno Rodl

but it seems we are looking for the same thing so we can share experiences

and maybe sound samples

[pulse]

Originally Posted by DaveF

The badder bass monkey is SUPER badass, but it doesn't really have that top-end "crunch" and doesn't really emulate the SVT-II.

I personally dont need it to emulate a SVT but how does it sound with a real SVT?

I have the stock one but its cheapness gets revealed a bit, thinking the Humphrey version might help me, cos I like the character of the bad monkey

[rodl2005]

I just ordered a Badder Chimp Humphrey thingy..... Still like to know re the Blueberry & any others. At the price I couldn't resist. Will let U know Pulse

[dannybuoy]

The naughtier chimp pedal sounds awesome through an SVT (or any amp) in a live band situation. It really makes you stand out in the mix. I wasn't too impressed with it when I first got it, but the first time I stomped on it when playing alongside a drummer and noisy guitarist I knew it was a keeper.

[rodl2005]

Good to hear Dannybuoy GLAD U R happy w/ yours. Lookin forward to mine arriving. Only ordered today-so it'll be a week or so! Will let all know my views. BUT PLEASE keep any more ideas comin in here! That Blueberry looks & sounds NIIICE!!! DAMN $$$$$ tho & RARE as hens fillings!!!

[pulse]

Yeah thanks for chiming in Danny

we needed that!

I gonna order mine now too, damn it RODL you got there first!!!

[kringle77]

I have played through a 70's svt recently with other amps and pedals in the room. Look up my review. The Bass vt will probably get you the closest in front of your svt-II. The voodoo labs sparkle overdrive is also very good and I still use that one live in front of my ashdowns. I will be getting an svt-II next week. I may do another review after I play the svt-II next to the 70's svt. I'll bring the pedals for comparison.

Way too many folks on here comment on gear that they have never played. If they talked from experience, or searched threads, there would be alot less confusion. I have never played the blueberry so I won't comment.

To me, the closest pedal ran in front of your svt-II would be the BASS VT because it has the same top end crunch as the svt and also compresses like the svt. The sparkle overdrive can get some of this without the compression. Take it for what it's worth and good luck.

[pulse]

Originally Posted by kringle77

I have played through a 70's svt recently with other amps and pedals in the room. Look up my review. The Bass vt will probably get you the closest in front of your svt-II. The voodoo labs sparkle overdrive is also very good and I still use that one live in front of my ashdowns. I will be getting an svt-II next week. I may do another review after I play the svt-II next to the 70's svt. I'll bring the pedals for comparison.

Way too many folks on here comment on gear that they have never played. If they talked from experience, or searched threads, there would be alot less confusion. I have never played the blueberry so I won't comment.

To me, the closest pedal ran in front of your svt-II would be the BASS VT because it has the same top end crunch as the svt and also compresses like the svt. The sparkle overdrive can get some of this without the compression. Take it for what it's worth and good luck.

Hi Kringle thanks for stepping in, what we or at least I am talking about here is the pedal into SVT II Input using the SVT II Pre amp in combination with such a pedal. Your test next week would be awesome before I commit my money one way or the other (i will probably buy both though ) As I had bad experience using my SABDDI into my SVT II input, i was afraid of the VT behaving in the same way, since people wrote it picks up where the SABDDI SVT setting leaves off.

that SABDDI SVT preset into my SVTII already sounds terrible to my ears.

but if you are saying the VT is a different beast then that is very interesting indeed

J

[Psychicpet]

it's waaaay lo-fi, it's waaaaaay affordable, and yes, i do have a bias.

But really, give a Hartke BassAttack a try, give it a good go and a chance. You might just find that it'll do what you want.