Powering EHX Freeze

scubaduba · #1 04-18-2011, 06:55 AM

Wall wart is 9.6v. From searching here it seems people get a hum when powered with something like a One Spot. I know I do. I've been just using the adapter that came with my Freeze but I'd like another option to avoid having two plugs. Anybody running a Freeze on something like a Fuel Tank JR. or the likes?

BruceBass3901 · #2 04-18-2011, 07:08 AM

I built an isolated power supply and it runs fine off of that along with the other 5 pedals, so it should be fine as long as it has an isolated outlet

eyvindwa · #3 04-18-2011, 07:33 AM

I use a Voodoo Labs PP2+, and it works just fine.

BassMonstrum · #4 04-18-2011, 07:36 AM

I think that as long as you run it isolated you should be fine.

JBMysteron · #5 04-18-2011, 07:57 AM

I have my Freeze + Big Muff Pi + T-Rex Sweeper Chorus all daisy-chained to just one spot of the PP2+ and it works just fine but if you chain 4 pedals in the loop for some reason it starts to get noisy...

Molotov Pop · #6 04-18-2011, 08:00 AM

try it. mine is running in an 11 box pedal board. 10 of these pedals (inc the Freeze) running from a single plug (the other is whammy, needs it's own AC supply). No probs so far.

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scubaduba · #7 04-18-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BassMonstrum

I think that as long as you run it isolated you should be fine.

So since a One Spot is not isolated that could be the cause?

scubaduba · #8 04-18-2011, 09:50 AM

And I'm guessing a Fuel Tank JR. is out of question since each output is just 120mA.

bassbrad · #9 04-18-2011, 11:27 AM

Mine is in a chain of 13 other pedals on a 1 spot no problems.

scubaduba · #10 04-18-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bassbrad

Mine is in a chain of 13 other pedals on a 1 spot no problems.

No hum? No hissing or white noise? Wow.

**Bryan R. Tyler** · #11 04-18-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scubaduba

No hum? No hissing or white noise? Wow.

I can run my Freeze on a 1-Spot with nothing else connecting and there will still be hum/noise. Some may not hear it or be used to it from long-existing hum from other pedals, some may be lucky and have a 1-Spot that makes no hum. I've owned several over the years and they're great, but certain pedals will emit a bit of hum with them.

scubaduba · #12 04-18-2011, 01:06 PM

OK. I'm thinking about picking up a brand new open box Fuel Tank JR. for $79. Seems like a good price for isolated connections.

bassbrad · #13 04-18-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scubaduba

No hum? No hissing or white noise? Wow.

There is not enough background noise to be an issue playing live but i would not use the signal direct for recording.

sunbeast · #14 04-18-2011, 08:17 PM

I've been using mine with a 1-Spot along with about 5 other pedals and there is only a minimal hiss audible through my rig, but I am playing through a tweeterless sealed 6x10 cab so that is probably why! I have compared running back and forth between its own supply and the 1 Spot and I have to turn the volume way up to hear the added noise when using the 1 Spot. It is certainly nowhere near the noise my Small Clone adds when on a daisy chain (if I use a fuzz pedal, I get a huge wave of the Small Clone clock noise even if the chorus is bypassed!).

I just bought a CIOKS AC-10 isolated power supply, but have yet to hook everything up- the Freeze does require a relatively high 146 mA, so I think the Fuel Tank Jr will not be adequate. A PP2+ also has some higher rated outputs that would work.

scubaduba · #15 04-19-2011, 08:34 AM

My understanding with the Fuel tank is there is an adapter that let's you use two outputs to power one pedal requiring more juice. True?

BassMonstrum · #16 04-19-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scubaduba

My understanding with the Fuel tank is there is an adapter that let's you use two outputs to power one pedal requiring more juice. True?

Correct. The Voodoo Lab PP2+ can also do this.

scubaduba · #17 04-19-2011, 11:08 AM

I like how small the Fuel Tank JR is. But the pp2 us certainly more versatile.

sunbeast · #18 04-19-2011, 05:21 PM

Ah yes I have heard about those cables- just make sure you get the amperage doubling cable vs. the voltage doubling cable (one is a series connection and one is parallel). I've never actually seen the amperage doubler cables for sale in a store though... The T-Rex power supplies are a bit of a conundrum to me- I think the Jr. would be the perfect tiny power supply if it just had higher amperage ratings (like 200 mA, or even 150), since many/most digital delays and many other digital effects seem to require more than 120mA. Also- why do they charge nearly $200 for the normal Fuel Tank when it doesn't even have isolated outputs (the only thing it has that the Jr doesn't is a higher total mA rating- because all the outputs are tied together- and a single AC 12V output)? Odd company!

scubaduba · #19 04-19-2011, 05:26 PM

Agree. Seems strange. I just purchased a new open box Fuel Tank JR. for $72 shipped. So we'll see. Seemed like a good price and has all the cables.

sunbeast · #20 04-19-2011, 05:34 PM

Just read the manual and it looks like the Jr. does come with one Amperage doubler cable, so at least they got that one right!

I just went through a long search for the right isolated supply for my pedals, so these things still interest me! If you ever need a bigger or more versatile supply, don't overlook the CIOKS offerings- I'm glad I found the CIOKS AC-10, as it is one of the few with both AC and DC sides with multiple settings!