powering my pedals / building a pedalboard

[tomvelsor]

i currently have 10 pedals. all of them except for one can run off of a standard boss-style power supply. the one that cant is a DOD fx25, the old one..the bottom says 10V power supply..and the size of the plug for the adaptor..well ive never seen an adaptor that'd fit in there.

so, i want to build my pedalboard but this is an issue..can a 1spot setup power an old DOD pedal?

i plan on getting 2 more pedals but they will almost definately run on a standard boss type adaptor.

options?

[ko stradivarius]

The 1 spot should come with 2 adapters(and direct 9V adapters) for those types of power jacks.
...at least mine did.

[tomvelsor]

will it come with enough adaptors to power 12 pedals? the ones i was just looking at i think only had 8..

[KarateKid25]

A second daisy chain would be needed. Also check you don't need more than 1700ma

[Zappstorius]

nah you'll need 2 one spots to cover 10 pedals & you will need to get another extention (to connect to the DOD pedal). Here's what you need: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ter?sku=151690

[FrigginChris]

Originally Posted by Zappstorius

nah you'll need 2 one spots to cover 10 pedals

this not totally correct, a single one spot can power up to 20 pedals depending on how much current they draw, he'll just need to get another daisy chain.

[Beej]

I power all my pedals with a one-spot type power plug that then powers a daisy chain. I power my ancient modded cry-baby wah and my two FX25's (yes, two are MUCH better than one) with adapters I picked up at The Source (Radio Shack in the USA) for about 2 bucks each. My single 1200mA power plug easily powers a dozen or more pedals (depending on their individual power draw).

[anyonefortennis]

Originally Posted by FrigginChris

this is incorrect, a single one spot can power 20 pedals, he'll just need to get another daisy chain

You can't make that argument either.

It all depends on how much current all pedals draw.

[FrigginChris]

Originally Posted by anyonefortennis

You can't make that argument either.

It all depends on how much current all pedals draw.

this is true

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[tomvelsor]

sick. would it be uncommon for a 1spot to not be able to power all 12 pedals? some of them have very low power draw..(like the true bypass looper..only really needs power for the LED..)

[wdinc01]

Originally Posted by tomvelsor

sick. would it be uncommon for a 1spot to not be able to power all 12 pedals? some of them have very low power draw..(like the true bypass looper..only really needs power for the LED..)

I don't think it would be. I mean, eight 200mA pedals would be able to work, but I'm not sure about twelve. I'd look on the back of the pedals, or check online to see what kind of power they need. You may have to buy two One-Spots, which wouldn't as much as some other options.

[tomvelsor]

i'm fine with buying 2 1 spots...still cheaper than a DCbrick..and now i have a few other questions.

patch cables. what ones to get, where to get them?

mounting the pedals onto the board. most likely im going to have just a big ole' piece of wood..ideas are welcome..

and, if i have it on a big piece of wood, where can i find a sturdy road worthy case for the board to fit in? itll most likely be 14"x24"

[rustynuts]

Originally Posted by tomvelsor

patch cables. what ones to get, where to get them?

Around here most like George L's, which you can get just about anywhere from eBay to MF. I used Planet Waves' Cable Station on my Board #1 but after waiting over a month (twice) for Bayou Cables I started building my own so Board #2 will have all my own custom made cables.

mounting the pedals onto the board. most likely im going to have just a big ole' piece of wood..ideas are welcome..

Velcro, definitely. Industrial strength Velcro. You can get it at Lowes, Walmart, etc. Five feet at Walmart is cheaper than 4 feet at Lowes though. Just FYI.

and, if i have it on a big piece of wood, where can i find a sturdy road worthy case for the board to fit in? itll most likely be 14"x24"

A lot of places will make you a custom case for your pedalboard. I'm going to have mine made by New York Case Co. Not sure about ready made in that size. You might even be able to find a gu case that would fit that one.

[FrigginChris]

Originally Posted by rustynuts

Around here most like George L's, which you can get just about anywhere from eBay to MF. I used Planet Waves' Cable Station on my Board #1 but after waiting over a month (twice) for Bayou Cables I started building my own so Board #2 will have all my own custom made cables.



Velcro, definitely. Industrial strength Velcro. You can get it at Lowes, Walmart, etc. Five feet at Walmart is cheaper than 4 feet at Lowes though. Just FYI.



A lot of places will make you a custom case for your pedalboard. I'm going to have mine made by New York Case Co. Not sure about ready made in that size. You might even be able to find a gu case that would fit that one.

+1 to all of this.

but just going to add one thing: an alternative to velcro is 3m dual lock. which is just as good, if not better than industrial strength velcro

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by wdinc01

I don't think it would be. I mean, eight 200mA pedals would be able to work, but I'm not sure about twelve. I'd look on the back of the pedals, or check online to see what kind of power they need. You may have to buy two One-Spots, which wouldn't as much as some other options.

Actually, the back of the pedal is a bad reference point. They usually tell you the spec of the adapter - not the actual draw.

All Boss pedals tell you the average current usage in the user manual - you'll notice that with the exception of digital pedals, the numbers are VERY small. Other pedals may not specify this at all (like most EHX pedals), but always check the manual or some of the online resources out there for better info. I've made a few references to useful charts in a few TB threads, one of those being on the Diago UK website.

There aren't many pedals with crazy current requirements out there. You can expect the majority of analog pedals to draw much less than 100mA (sometimes under 10mA, with many fuzz and distortion pedals). But digital pedals are the ones that eat batteries for breakfast.

But there may be other problems that could arise from a chain that large on a single 1 Spot - it just depends on what he's powering, specifically.

[tomvelsor]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

Actually, the back of the pedal is a bad reference point. They usually tell you the spec of the adapter - not the actual draw.

All Boss pedals tell you the average current usage in the user manual - you'll notice that with the exception of digital pedals, the numbers are VERY small. Other pedals may not specify this at all (like most EHX pedals), but always check the manual or some of the online resources out there for better info. I've made a few references to useful charts in a few TB threads, one of those being on the Diago UK website.

There aren't many pedals with crazy current requirements out there. You can expect the majority of analog pedals to draw much less than 100mA (sometimes under 10mA, with many fuzz and distortion pedals). But digital pedals are the ones that eat batteries for breakfast.

But there may be other problems that could arise from a chain that large on a single 1 Spot - it just depends on what he's powering, specifically.

specifically, im powering an analogman minichorus, boss rv-5 delay/reverb, vintage DOD FX25, boss oc-2, red witch moon phaser, zvex machine, electronix messdrive, visual sound jekyll and hyde, dunlop 105q, and boss rc-20 XL. also soon i'll get a true-bypass looper (recommendadtions needed. might have a local guy build me one though..) and if the chunk systems octavius is really good i'll have that.

my next issue is that, i measured the way i want my pedals laid out, and i'll need roughly 14' worth of cable wire, and i think 24 cable plugs. george L's cables only come in 10' lengths with 10 plugs. i could buy two of those "pedalboard kits" but i'd still be short a few plugs..should i just use any regular cable for 2 or 3 of the connections to save me the extra money, or is there some way i can buy this stuff seperately?

[JanusZarate]

Yeah, you can buy EVERYTHING separately, in fact.

http://www.georgels.com/

They sell everything individually as well as in kit form. The same also applies to Planet Waves cables.

And TBH, there's nothing wrong with mixing in some ordinary patch cables, provided that they're durable. It just won't look right aesthetically. But you're not that vain, are you?

I know I am.

[rustynuts]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

I know I am.

Guilty here as well.

[tomvelsor]

Originally Posted by MysticBoo

Yeah, you can buy EVERYTHING separately, in fact.

http://www.georgels.com/

They sell everything individually as well as in kit form. The same also applies to Planet Waves cables.

And TBH, there's nothing wrong with mixing in some ordinary patch cables, provided that they're durable. It just won't look right aesthetically. But you're not that vain, are you?

I know I am.

typical bass player moment, i check every single website except for "georgels.com" to find specific george L products.

so i've got my patch cables picked out, got the power issue worked out, now i need to find a case for this thing..i guess i could just have a big ass box made to the right size and pad the hell out of the inside?

thanks to everyone giving input here..

[KarateKid25]

And im the other example... Thousands of $$ in effects and about $50 worth of non matching, brightly coloured patch leads... I really need to do something about that one day

Pedal GAS always takes my spare cash though and I change effects around too much to have custom lengths etc. I'll work something out...