Pro-co RAT w/ a blend knob..?

Flipper43 · #1 03-03-2010, 01:56 PM

Does anyone know of someone who makes these or how you would install one yourself? That would be awesome, i would buy one.

rratajski · #2 03-03-2010, 02:34 PM

Easier to get/build a blend pedal yourself.

www.woundedpaw.com.

Search up "blend" too.

playerunk · #3 03-03-2010, 02:41 PM

boss ls2 ?

Silent Fly · #4 03-04-2010, 02:15 PM

I never heard of a Rat-type pedal with blend - not as a product anyway. It can be built though.

Zerstorte Zelle · #5 03-04-2010, 02:19 PM

you should look into a barge concepts vb-jr, xotic x blender or a boss ls-2. all of your pedals can have clean blend.

Flipper43 · #6 03-04-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerstorte Zelle

you should look into a barge concepts vb-jr, xotic x blender or a boss ls-2. all of your pedals can have clean blend.

I'm looking into one of these bad boys.. And i decided that i'm going to sell my RAT and stick with my (1st edition) Marshall Guv'nor

God i love that thing when it's blended. It sounds good right off the bat
http://www.woundedpaw.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=141{4}28{7}30

Flipper43 · #7 03-18-2010, 11:01 AM

Does anyone know of a way i could possibly add a blend feature to a RAT? Or anyone that can do it themselves? Thanks.

rratajski · #8 03-18-2010, 01:25 PM

You would have to add a blender board to the circuit. It will only fit into Vintage Rat Reissue boxes (tightly) or a rehoused RAT.

http://www.woundedpaw.com

But, again, it would be easier to have a blender in a separate box, so that you could blend other pedals, too, if the option ever presented itself.

jetofuj · #9 05-30-2010, 06:16 AM

I want it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=331TR...eature=related
http://pitchblackelectronics.com/mods/clean-blend-mod/

I've never seen a pedal with blend containing gain and level of dry signal. This gain migh be very useful, what do you think?

ourworldisgrey · #10 05-30-2010, 05:38 PM

Pro Co Juggarnaut. Problem solved.

jetofuj · #11 05-30-2010, 06:06 PM

I haven't heard anything but critic opinions on Juggernaut. The current productions model isn't the same as Larry Graham have/had.

Jazz Ad · #12 05-30-2010, 06:46 PM

The Juggernaut sucks, seriously.
I'd contact Guttermouth. He knows pretty much everything about RATs and their modding.

Harbec · #13 05-31-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

The Juggernaut sucks, seriously.
I'd contact Guttermouth. He knows pretty much everything about RATs and their modding.

Juggernaut rocks. I have one and I would not trade it, ever. Did you at least try the pedal for saying non-sense on it?

MAMMOTHvolume · #14 06-01-2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Fly

I never heard of a Rat-type pedal with blend - not as a product anyway. It can be built though.

not heard of a proco juggernaut?

Harbec · #15 06-01-2010, 11:38 AM

By the way, the Juggernaut is not for sale anymore. Pro-co Company decided to stop producing it due to lack of sales. Here's a picture of the 1979 Juggernaut:

jetofuj · #16 06-01-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Harbec

By the way, the Juggernaut is not for sale anymore. Pro-co Company decided to stop producing it due to lack of sales.

Guess why

rratajski · #17 06-01-2010, 04:57 PM

Zing!

Harbec · #18 06-02-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jetofuj

Guess why

It's because it was expansive due to high quality pieces which cost 2x as much as regular Chinese fabrications. There's a complete outboard effect circuit, analog, built in USA, the knobs are incredibly sensitive (can get some of your signature sound like that).

Although I paid mine 160$, the regular price was 270$. Who would buy a professional distortion-dirty stomp box? People like us will rather pay 70$ and get a Russian Big Muff and probably wont notice the lack of quality it has.

jetofuj · #19 06-02-2010, 02:06 PM

Check out grygrx's review:
http://bassfuzz.com/2010/05/09/dirt-...co-juggernaut/

I'm glad that you dig the pedal, but I guess you're the only person I know that does

I really don't believe that it's a high quality product + the parts they use are probably Made In China (like most things) and only assembled is US + money aren't an issue IMO as many TBers pay much more for bass fuzz boxes.

Harbec · #20 06-02-2010, 08:00 PM

Jetofuj thanks for the review, I've never seen a big review of the Juggernaut like that. For the sake of it, check out the RAT FAQs about the product quality: http://ratdistortion.com/products/faq/ . I know its from the official website but it's very interesting. And I think all RAT pedals uses the same circuit, check out the specifications: http://ratdistortion.com/products/specifications/ . Rats have proved their point about their fuzz, I was at a Miles Davis museum last week and saw a RAT pedal (I think it was used by Marcus Miller wich also had an amazing Fodera bass there).

About the video, the playing of the juggernaut wasn't totally right, there's a vocal quality you can do with it and wasn't shown due to his way of fingering/picking. It's sorta, as I was watching this review, I was sure the Bass Fuzz.com intro was done with the juggernaut as it can get very similar. Also, the knobs turning were pretty random, either the "amount knob" was at full or 12 o'clock and the Tone was at Full, 12 o clock or middle. I personnaly love when the Tone knob is at: around 2 o'clock and I didn't see that here. I would like to see the sound of this pedal with some Bartolini's and an Ampeg Tone. Ill try recording something and link it to see what I'm talking about.

The footswitch is not supposed to 'pop' (mine doesn't) so it may be an issue with this particular pedal.

Cool review, sad rating, thanks for sharing!