Problem with Daisy Chains

KsToaDangr · #1 06-15-2008, 10:12 AM

This might seem like kind of a weird thing to be asking about, but I just want to know what's wrong. I've got 2 9V adapters(one 1-Spot and 1 Danelectro DA-1). From everything I've read, the 1-spot is completely compatible for replacing the DA-1. With the 1-spot, I got a 7 plug daisy chain, and the DA-1 came with a 5 plug daisy chain. The 1-spot is supposed to be able to power up to 20 pedals with daisy chains. Here's where it gets strange:

1-spot--->7 plug chain--->5 plug chain = 7 plug chain works, 5 plug chain doesn't

1-Spot--->5 plug chain--->7 plug chain = 5 plug chain works, 7 plug chain doesn't

As if this needed to be more complicated, when I hook both chains up to the DA-1, one configuration powers 11 pedals fine, the other way only powers the first daisy chain(I can't remember off hand which way is which).

Anyone have a clue why this would be happening? I'm not particularly worried about it, since it's really simple for me to just use both adapters, but has been kind of confusing me.

niftydog · #2 06-15-2008, 05:17 PM

No joy from jiggling the connection between the two chains? Sounds to me as if the connectors aren't playing nice with each other. There's no other logical reason why this shouldn't work.

KsToaDangr · #3 06-15-2008, 05:28 PM

trust me, I've tried jiggling each individual jack on both chains. Nothing happens. But, as I said in the OP, I'm not too worried about it since I've got 2 adapters, it just really confuses me as to how it will work one way but not the other 14 or so ways I could hook them both up.

Thangfish · #4 06-15-2008, 05:33 PM

Some pedals are known not to get along well on a daisy chain power supply.

Maybe you can narrow it down to a certain offending pedal, or perhaps post a list of your pedals so that some effect gurus more knowledgeable than myself could have a look?

KsToaDangr · #5 06-15-2008, 06:08 PM

As some of the people on here know, I'm a Danelectro junkie. check my profile for a list of the Dano pedals I own. That's pretty much what I'm trying to hook up right now.

Thangfish · #6 06-15-2008, 06:35 PM

Well I guess there are no positive ground Dano stomps.

Still though, on the chain that doesn't work, unplug power from each pedal one at a time, test, re-plug, go to the next.
It sounds like one of your pedals is shorting the chain, for whatever reason.

niftydog · #7 06-15-2008, 06:57 PM

If one pedal is opposite polarity it will short the entire supply, including BOTH daisy chains.

The only logical explanation is that the connection between the two chains is dodge.

KsToaDangr · #8 06-15-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thangfish

Well I guess there are no positive ground Dano stomps.

Still though, on the chain that doesn't work, unplug power from each pedal one at a time, test, re-plug, go to the next.
It sounds like one of your pedals is shorting the chain, for whatever reason.

All of the dano pedals are neg ground. I tried exactly what you suggested when I first tried to hook them all up on the one spot. At the time, I had the 7 chain hooked up to: Tuner, Compressor, EQ, Flanger, Octave, & Phaser, in that order. The last plug on it plugged into the 5 chain, which went to: FAB echo, FAB chorus, Daddy-O, Fab Tone, Wasabi Distortion in that order. I started disconnecting them at the Phaser(I had just bought it used), and moved down from there. After I got to the end, I switched the 5 chain and the 7 chain, but kept the pedals hooked up in the same order they had been in. When the 5 chain worked, but the 7 chain didn't, I switched out the 1-spot for the dano adapter just to see if it was a problem with the 1-spot itself. That's when I figured out that only one way worked for all of them to be powered from the dano adapter, but just to be on the safe side, I generally keep each adapter only powering 1 chain now.

fuNKmaster83 · #9 06-16-2008, 06:27 AM

i power my pedals with daisy chains... i mostly use ibanez and danelectro power supply's... some are no names...
i have daisy chains of 5 and i can hook up another 5 to that one ans it works!!!

KsToaDangr · #10 06-21-2008, 09:52 PM

as if anyone other than me even cares about this thread anymore...I finally figured out what the problem was...the peg in one of the connectors was a little bit loose, and since the 1 Spot daisy chain and Dano daisy chain have slightly different length barrels, it wasn't connecting properly. Once I figured it out, it took about 30 seconds to fix.

bongomania · #11 06-21-2008, 11:02 PM

Mazel tov.

KsToaDangr · #12 06-22-2008, 09:25 AM

I just wish I had figured it out and fixed it before I spent $30 on another 1-spot/MC8 daisy chain...ohh well, It'll come in handy eventually.

niftydog · #13 06-22-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KsToaDangr

I just wish I had figured it out and fixed it before I spent $30...

Nobody listens to me...

KsToaDangr · #14 06-22-2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niftydog

Nobody listens to me...

actually, it was your post that made me look at each individual plug really closely, and like I said, I'll be able to find a use for the new 1spot anyway.

niftydog · #15 06-22-2008, 06:15 PM

Oh, well in that case

Just thought I might have helped you avoid spending money!

KsToaDangr · #16 06-22-2008, 06:34 PM

I ordered the new 1spot the day before you posted. I'm probably going to be building a small board soon though(only 6 or 8 pedals), so I was most likely going to buy another one anyway. Now that I've budgeted myself $100 every month to either spend on gear or save towards something big, I'll be getting a lot of stuff soon.