Running an octave into ANOTHER octave? I've a Foxrox Octron,should I get a Micro POG?

Nic. · #1 03-30-2010, 03:08 AM

So is it worth it?

I'm considering getting a micro POG for the clean octave (I'm using a foxrox octron now), and I was wondering whether chaining two octaves would actually work. You know, setting both to octave up and down, so running one into the other would give you your original note, octave up, octave down, two octaves up and two octaves down.......... has anyone done this yet?

Anyway, more importantly, that's just for fun, I just want to know if I should bother getting this second octave since I'm already very happy with my Octron.

The chain I'm thinking of at the moment is

Bass -> Compressor -> Foxrox Octron -> EHX Micro POG -> Silver Dragon -> Amp

which is my usual chain with a micro POG added in.

One other thing is that the octron doesn't give me the octave down when I'm playing within the first few frets, but I hear the micro POG tracks up to the lowest F on some basses... while it stops at the Ab on others. It would be nice to have an octave down that I can leave on all the time. I'm using a self-defretted fretless with flatwounds, and this forum has given me the idea that fretless basses are tracked better by octavers...

Finally, should I sell my Octron if I like the micro POG? I know they're different sounds, a clean digital octave VS an analogue octave, but would driving the micro POG grit it enough to pass off as an analogue?

By the way, I'm getting the micro POG 2nd hand. I won't be having the luxury to test it out in stores, and I don't think I'll have enough time, or the seller enough patience, for me to slowly test it out for an hour... so that's why I've to resort to asking online.

takfar · #2 03-30-2010, 05:14 AM

I don't know about the "chaining octaves" thing, but the microPOG will octave pretty much anything you throw at it, down to the low B on a 5-stringer (or lower), or your voice through a microphone, or, well, anything really.

I suppose running the octron's octave-down on its own and sending it into the POG's octave-up mode could result in some interesting digital-sounding synthetic tones.

cybersnyder · #3 03-30-2010, 05:39 AM

I think you'll have tracking issues. Any warble in the output of the Octron will be amplified by the POG, or any octaver for that matter.

fightthepower · #4 03-30-2010, 05:58 AM

The POG will do pretty well when fed an octave.

In my setup, inorder to have only one OC-2 + GEB7, I have them feeding into the input of my LS-2, which has a HOG-Freqbox in one loop. HOG is pitchshifting the pure -1oct from the OC-2 and sending it to the 2nd Freqbox, and it works just fine.

I've tried other octaver combo's with much less success(ie HOG-OC2, HOG-Pollyanna, etc). Short answer is yes it should work with the POG last in line, but I wouldn't expect to be blown away by the tones of the mixed digital and analog octave tones-- I wasn't anyway

smo · #5 03-30-2010, 09:08 AM

I tried exactly what you're describing when I first got my Octron2.

Octron2 --> MicroPOG.

And you HAVE to have it this way.
MicroPOG --> Octron will sound awful, as the Octron just can't do chords/multiple notes.
The POG has MUCH better tracking, but has significant difference in tone to the Octron.

In combo, it will sound pretty huge, but only if you keep out of glitch territory. I especially liked it for intro's, but in a band setting it's not easy to use successfully.

Funnily enough, I ended up selling the POG, not the Octron.
For me it was about the tone, as I don't try to get an octave below a low B of 30Hz........

faceinbass · #6 03-30-2010, 09:17 AM

the octron2 is the best octave I have played through.
I have played through a lot of them.

You should do this and post clips. IM curious.

Scionreality · #7 03-30-2010, 09:18 AM

I've run a Boss PS-5 into a Micro POG both set for an octave down then back up and the opposite. Never used it practically, but for playing around exploring the strangeness available on a board it was pretty neat. If you want a glitchy and very very digitized sounding tone then try it, but I'd advise against buying a pedal for it. Rather, see if you can try one out first (at a music shop, maybe).

OilcanRacer · #8 03-30-2010, 06:40 PM

i kind of do stuff like this. i will run a multi chorus into a pitch shifter or vice versa with the pitch shifter going up instead of down.

also i run the pitch shifter with a forth up going into a subharmonic generator and that gets lots of really low bass. then thru the MF-101 cutting off all the highs.
either way without a subwoofer cab you are not going to hear it or blow up your speakers.

whatever you use you will want to have the cleaner of the two first. when i use my oc-2 in this combining idea it gets too glitchy.