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10-20-2008, 09:22 PM
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i like the sound that the russian electro-harmonix big muff pi gets with bass. however, ive heard complaints about the power plug, etc. whats up with it? ive been planning on using a 1-spot daisy chain cable to power all of my pedals, but people have been saying that regular power supplies dont work with it. can anybody with any expirience with these tell me about it? thanks! | 
10-20-2008, 09:35 PM
| | | | There's no power jack on it. | 
10-20-2008, 10:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, California | | | but you could PROBABLY use a daisy chain with an adapter for a 9V battery. Somebody please correct me if this doesn't work | 
10-20-2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RCCollins but you could PROBABLY use a daisy chain with an adapter for a 9V battery. Somebody please correct me if this doesn't work | I run mine as such off of my 1-Spot. No problems at all. | 
10-20-2008, 10:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada | | | 9V Battery clip adapter for a daisy chain works fine.
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Originally Posted by Mudfuzz But it is a muffiant not a supperfuzziant or a fuzzfaciant or a gated-fuzziant. | | 
10-21-2008, 01:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 37° 47' N 122° 24' W | | I highly recommend the Mohomods mods. http://www.mohomods.com/effects.htm
Go to "pedal mods" on the left and you'll see the Russian Muff.
Besides adding a power jack, they'll true bypass it, and swap out the cheap components, resulting in even better tonage. | 
10-21-2008, 05:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ennui | | | I use one of the two battery clips that come with the 1-Spot set. I'm not completely in love with it, because I have to keep the metal cover off, and I fear I'll expose the board to whatever elements that my feet expose to the board, but for $35, it works very well.
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10-21-2008, 11:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | With the existence of the EHX Bass Big Muff, I see little reason to use the old black Russian version on bass. 
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10-21-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo With the existence of the EHX Bass Big Muff, I see little reason to use the old black Russian version on bass.  | Really? It's a pretty different fuzz sound IMO and the low end loss really isn't that bad. Far less versatile than the BBM though, I'd only pick one up for cheap.
Unlike, say, the LBM, the Black Russian was favored by bass players long enough that I'd say it's some sort of classic, whatever its faults. I miss mine (though admittedly it wouldn't be on my board even if I still had it). | 
10-21-2008, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | The Sovtek has held longer favor with bass players, although the Russian does carry its legacy, and so does the BBM. IMO and in my limited experience with the older Big Muffs, the BBM may not match its Russian-made predecessors perfectly, but its features and sounds just overall make it more inviting and worthwhile than the old ones.
Then again, that's coming from someone who doesn't believe in the hype of vintage pedals (with some exceptions)... 
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10-21-2008, 11:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Reading UK | | | I wouldn't get it purely on the low end loss. Sure it isn't a massive drop like other guitar distortions, but it is enough so that in a live situation, it would take some incredible engineering to keep your present in the low end if the mix. Not enough fundamental comes through to realistically boost the low end back up into line with the clean signal.
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10-21-2008, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo The Sovtek has held longer favor with bass players, although the Russian does carry its legacy, and so does the BBM. IMO and in my limited experience with the older Big Muffs, the BBM may not match its Russian-made predecessors perfectly, but its features and sounds just overall make it more inviting and worthwhile than the old ones. | I'd agree that the Sovtek is also a classic, no doubt. The BBM sounds more like a green BM than it does the Black, which is no surprise since the green was the model for the BBM. For this reason, if you really wanted to have two ehx BMPi's for bass, the BBM and the Black Russian would be the two to go for. But it would be overkill, no doubt.
I think the low-end loss is overplayed, almost everybody should own some kind of blendable bypass looper. | 
10-21-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RCCollins almost everybody should own some kind of blendable bypass looper. | I don't.
But the pedals that would "need" one already have built-in blending. 
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10-21-2008, 12:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canada & USA | | | I find all this talk of low-end loss on the black Muff odd. Maybe its just my ears but I think the lows are strong while the mids suffer horribly. I keep my Muff's tone knob at around 1 o'clock. | 
10-21-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticBoo I don't.
But the pedals that would "need" one already have built-in blending.  | I haven't always found that to be true. And admittedly, I DON'T currently own a blendable looper (not a pedal anyway). But dang are the useful. | 
10-21-2008, 12:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | I meant out of my own personal arsenal.
But in general, most pedals that deserve a blend knob don't have one. In that sense, you're correct.
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