Sadowsky Outboard Pre Amp/DI Pedal vs Avella Coppola Kah Boom Pre Amp Pedal

bassnyc1 · #1 11-20-2010, 05:22 AM

Hi All,

I'm thinking about ordering a Sadowsky Outboard Pre Amp/DI pedal but I've also heard great things about Avella Coppola Kah Boom Pre Amp Pedal. Essentially, I've heard that the AC pedal is more "vintage" sounding. It's also more than $100 than the Sadowsky pedal and (I think) it doesn't offer a DI so I'm wondering if anyone's had a chance to compare these two.

Any insight will be appreciated. Thanks!

P.S. I searched but nothing came up......

Lorenzini · #2 11-20-2010, 01:29 PM

Subbed.

bongomania · #3 11-20-2010, 01:43 PM

This is the first I've even heard of the Alleva-Coppolo one.

Edit: http://allevacoppolo.com/accessories...e-kah-boom-box
It's a two-band EQ pedal. Big whoop. It would have to sound freaking amazing to be worth that price, considering there are many really-good-sounding EQ pedals out there at half that price.

bassnyc1 · #4 11-20-2010, 08:13 PM

I agree but then again, there might be some members here at talkbass who have had some experience with the AC pedal and maybe have even compared it to the Sad pedal so let's see if anyone else can offer some info.....

markjazzbassist · #5 11-20-2010, 11:21 PM

spend 50 bucks and get some labella flats to throw on your axe. you now have the vintage tone. i just saved you 300 bucks.

narud · #6 11-20-2010, 11:40 PM

somewhere in the plethora of clips ive posted over the years, i posted an ab of these two pres. i cant find the clips though and theyre on a hard drive somewhere.

in short, the differences are subtle but are there. as you boost, the treble on the sad is voiced slightly higher and becomes glassier. the lows are also a touch lower. when using a realistic amount of boost (ie, not maxing the controls) they can sound extremely similar.

bassnyc1 · #7 11-22-2010, 04:22 PM

Thanks for the response Narud. I would LOVE to hear those sound clips if you could find them.

Lorenzini · #8 11-25-2010, 02:37 PM

Anything new on this?

lx_night · #9 11-25-2010, 02:47 PM

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burk48237 · #10 11-25-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bongomania

This is the first I've even heard of the Alleva-Coppolo one.

Edit: http://allevacoppolo.com/accessories...e-kah-boom-box
It's a two-band EQ pedal. Big whoop. It would have to sound freaking amazing to be worth that price, considering there are many really-good-sounding EQ pedals out there at half that price.

The Sadowsky Pre is a two band and I wouldn't trade it for any three or four band on board in the world. I've owned plenty of other high end basses with a lot more bands including Alembic Series 1, and the Bart NTMB. But the Sadowsky is a very musical pre that just plain works. Having played A/C basses their on-board pre is the most vintage sounding active pre I've heard. If this one is identical to the on boards it would be well worth it, although I'm surprised it doesn't come with a DI out. In fairness both of those basses sound awful good because of the care taken in the whole package from the wood to the construction to the set-up and plugging either pre into a plywood frog want a prince make, but it will be a far better sounding frog.

bongomania · #11 11-25-2010, 07:20 PM

Yeah but I mean TBH the frog comparison really is the key here-- certainly Sadowsky and Alleva-Coppolo basses sound amazing, but the preamp is only part of the reason why. If you directly compare the Sadowsky outboard box with any of the other semi-high-end EQ pedals on the market, you can hear the Sadowsky is not any better-sounding than the others. I'm not talking Boss or MXR of course. The fact is, there are a lot of really nice-sounding EQ pedals on the market right now: Fromel, Barber Linden, Empress, HBE Detox, etc., and all of them -including the Sadowsky- cost 1/2 to 2/3 the price of the AC.