Sanford And Sonny: Blubeard Fuzz

[katri]

Ive read a couple reviews, watched the bassfuzz.com review and have decided i definately want one,
But my problem is, how do i get my hands on one??
i have emailed the email address given on the myspace but have not had a reply.
is there someone else i should email.

Also any current owners what are your thoughts after owning one for a while

Thanks
Dan

[OptimusPrime]

Hahahahahaha.

[B.C.]

Originally Posted by OptimusPrime

Hahahahahaha.

I believe what Optimus is refering to is the near impossibility to contact the company, so it would be best to search for one used.

[OptimusPrime]

Originally Posted by B.C.

I believe what Optimus is refering to is the near impossibility to contact the company, so it would be best to search for one used.

Near impossibility? I call it impossible. You have to make threats and file complaints. Then you get a call back full of apologies saying you'll get your pedal soon. 3 weeks later you still have nothing. Even though I've been told that he got a shipment of 10 pedals. And the bastard still doesn't return your calls.

Save yourself from getting angry and order a Supercollider or something.

[rratajski]

...or build a GGG muff for $65.

(Yes, it's not the same thing, but it's as close as you need it to be tonally)

[OptimusPrime]

Originally Posted by rratajski

...or build a GGG muff for $65.

(Yes, it's not the same thing, but it's as close as you need it to be tonally)

+1. Make it look exactly the same too. Blue LED and Ric style knobs. Write some scribble on the bottom in Sharpie. No one will know the difference.

[totalimmortal08]

Originally Posted by OptimusPrime

+1. Make it look exactly the same too. Blue LED and Ric style knobs. Write some scribble on the bottom in Sharpie. No one will know the difference.

+1. I talked to KarateKid about this, he said the only difference was the lows were a little bit better and it had a bit more of a fuller sound but, he said it is pretty much the same. I plan on getting the kit once I get some more money and some time outside of college

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by rratajski

...or build a GGG muff for $65.

(Yes, it's not the same thing, but it's as close as you need it to be tonally)

That's what I did. You'll probably spend about 4 hours putting it together. Instructions were clear. You can always mix up some of the RC values to produce more lows. There are also some mods out there for it.

[Valerus]

Or ask someone to buy the kit and make it themselves and buy it from them.

[katri]

how much/what difference is there between the GGG and the bluebeard??

[rratajski]

From what people have said on here, what I've experienced with building/using the GGG muff, and what I've seen in SpankyPants' video demo: http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=38697022 I can say that there are subtle differences.

It's not as vast a difference as comparing the BlueBeard to the black Russian reissue...

Apparently, the BB is more low tone friendly than the GGG. If one were to dime the tone and sustain on the GGG, one would hear lots of high end snarl (and prob some feedback). It's a high treble gain...I replaced the diodes on my personal pedal to germanium diodes to make the tone warmer w/ better bass response. It allows the tone to sound more natural, but I need the sustain past 3:00 to get major snarl...

From what people have said on here and from what one can see on guts shots of the BB, there is one more electrolytic cap on there and a couple different resistor values, so it is different than the GGG...

So differences = price, size (if you go w/ GGG's smaller enclosure), you can design your own paint/design with GGG, different bass response, different knobs, different LED...

[mikeboth]

Originally Posted by rratajski

From what people have said on here and from what one can see on guts shots of the BB, there is one more electrolytic cap on there and a couple different resistor values, so it is different than the GGG...

These differences were not in the audio section of the circuit.

*If* the BB is effectively unavailable anyway, it's a moot point.

[rratajski]

Also, after you hear/watch SpankyPants' demo, you can see my demo on my MySpace page (in my sig below). I have a video up there on bass and g****r for the "GREEN STACHE". It's a GGG Muff.
It sounds as close as it can to the BB. Spanky's using a different bass than I am and has far more superior skillz than I do.

Just order a GGG muff and build it on your own or have someone build for you! Unbeliever confirms the changes aren't in the audio circuit.

[katri]

if the changes aren't in the audio part of the circuit the how does it make a difference to the sound?

[fenderhutz]

Atomic Music in Beltsville MD has them in stock for the 160.00 price I think. Sonny used to work there and they sell them for him.

But just buy the GGG Tuned muff. It's the same freaking pedal marketed as the Blue Beard for Sonny.

Jason at GGG (the one that builds them for Sonny) even told me via email it's the same pedal before it got back to Sonny and now that it threatens profits they are claiming otherwise.

[katri]

now knowing that its not only similar but pretty much the same as the GGG, part of me still wants a Bluebeard-does that make me a bad person? on the other hand $100 saving is quite attractive. Can I get the same size enclosure and same knobs from GGG
also what exactly is the difference in the circuit, is it purely different value caps and resistors or are there extra components?

[rratajski]

I did some digging on here, since we've talked about this a lot: This got ridiculous a long time ago ... now I'm peeved off -- it's 4 pages of stuff and there are pics of the guts, too...

one of our mods at bassfuzz.com has pics of the guts on page 5 of his review.

Just curious...if you know that they're so similar, why do you want to pay almost $100 more? You can get the knobs at Radio Shack or online from pedal parts/electronic places like smallbearelec.com or somewhere similar.

btw, waiting for a BB in England is gonna be an even longer wait than just ordering straight from JD at www.generalguitargadget.com.

[KarateKid25]

I gotta stress that the pedals ARE NOT the same. I own both and have blind A/Bed them. The Bluebeard is the better unit with a fuller, more complete sound. Lower lows and clearer highs and just seems generally bigger sounding. The general overall tone is the same though. If you can't get a Bluebeard, I wouldn't worry too much and would just settle with the GGG.

Some Pics for reference:

[mikeboth]

Originally Posted by KarateKid25

I gotta stress that the pedals ARE NOT the same.

If yours was built using the same part values, it would sound exactly the same. There isn't any 'magic mojo' that can account for the difference.

Any chance of some samples of both? Just for interests' sake?

[rustynuts]

Showing off?