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07-10-2009, 01:01 PM
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i have zero experience with these i have read about them and i have heard that they can be used as an overdrive/ distortion pedal as well as a di box.
my first question is: is this overdrive / distortion effect possibility true?
my second question: as it duplicates a signal is it possible to use the second out to run into a a second amp head?
i'm sorry for the simplicity of these questions but i want to check before i bother trying one, my current setup is an svt4 pro with two svt 810e's i want to run my signal into one head per cab (i'm purchasing a second 4 pro). with one head running my high frequencies and the other head running the lows with one head ( low freq) being clean and the second head (high freqs) running my effects . i dont like y cables and am wondering if a di box would be a good solution. the sans amp series seems to be the most popular. any suggestions would also be appreciated.
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07-10-2009, 01:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario | | | i could be completely wrong in both of these statements but thats why i'm asking
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07-10-2009, 01:39 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winnipeg | | | Which model of Sansamp are you looking at?
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07-10-2009, 01:56 PM
| | Registered User Beta Tester: Source Audio. Hacker: Heavy Drone FX | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spokane, WA. | | There are other ways to hook one SVT-4 into another (or perhaps just a slave poweramp).
Read the manual,...hooking the two up shouldn't be hard to figure out. Check page 8 (on the linked pdf file below). http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/SVT4PRO.pdf
SVT-4 is also biampable so you can run high freqs to one cab, and lows to another. You may not even need to by a second amp to achieve your goal (and I doubt seriously you need 2400 watts).
EDIT: While it is a great tool to have I don't think that the balanced out on base Sansamp BDDI will run a second Head,...if you want a stomp box to do that, then you need a quality A/B/Y (Radial Big Shot). But look into what I suggested, learn something about your amp and save your self some money.
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07-10-2009, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by warwick.hoy I don't think that the balanced out on base Sansamp BDDI will run a second Head | Just curious... why not??... isn't this just an un-effected signal??? 
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07-10-2009, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User Beta Tester: Source Audio. Hacker: Heavy Drone FX | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spokane, WA. | | | I'm not sure but I've never been able to drive an amp with a balanced XLR out into the 1/4" input. My experience is with an Aphex big bottom into an SWR LA-8 and trying to get the XLR out into the 1/4 in on a guitar amp (to use it's distortion). It just work. Maybe in the Amp had a balanced XLR input on it (like a mixing board does) it would be different.
Someone more qualified could probably answer as to why it doesn't work that way or what mistakes I was making.
For the OP's purposes, he doesn't need a pedal to run two amps. I'm not sure how to do it with the SVT-4 but it can be done and all we would need would be a couple cables. (Hence my posting of the Owners Manual.) | 
07-10-2009, 03:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | Your amp is biampable, with a crossover, this means you can do what you are talking about with one head. You don't need a second head, nor do you need a splitter. Even if you did need a splitter, a BDDI wouldn't be my first choice. A Radial Bones ABY would be a better choice, but it really seems unnecessary in your application. Check the manual, you can do this without any more gear.
Also, the BDDI dirt would likely sound similar to the tube gain stage of your Ampeg, but I could be mistaken. | 
07-10-2009, 04:08 PM
| | Registered User Beta Tester: Source Audio. Hacker: Heavy Drone FX | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spokane, WA. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick.hoy There are other ways to hook one SVT-4 into another (or perhaps just a slave poweramp).
Read the manual,...hooking the two up shouldn't be hard to figure out. Check page 8 (on the linked pdf file below). http://www.ampeg.com/pdf/SVT4PRO.pdf
SVT-4 is also biampable so you can run high freqs to one cab, and lows to another. You may not even need to by a second amp to achieve your goal (and I doubt seriously you need 2400 watts).
EDIT: While it is a great tool to have I don't think that the balanced out on base Sansamp BDDI will run a second Head,...if you want a stomp box to do that, then you need a quality A/B/Y (Radial Big Shot). But look into what I suggested, learn something about your amp and save your self some money. | Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin Your amp is biampable, with a crossover, this means you can do what you are talking about with one head. You don't need a second head, nor do you need a splitter. Even if you did need a splitter, a BDDI wouldn't be my first choice. A Radial Bones ABY would be a better choice, but it really seems unnecessary in your application. Check the manual, you can do this without any more gear.
Also, the BDDI dirt would likely sound similar to the tube gain stage of your Ampeg, but I could be mistaken. | Great minds think alike. | 
07-10-2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by warwick.hoy Great minds think alike. | What he ^ said.
I had really meant to reference your post at some point in there, but I guess my self importance took over.  | 
07-12-2009, 04:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario | | | i understand i can biamp i'm aware of how the head works but its not what i want to do with it. this sansamp is only an exploratory option for me
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07-12-2009, 04:22 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London, England | | | yeah the sansamp BDDI has the two 1/4 inch outputs, ones clean and ones effected, should do what you want.
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07-14-2009, 09:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario | | | +1 finally a straight answer
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