SANS AMP Question ?

[Bassbasixx]

Hey I just got a Sans Amp bass driver and can't believe the monster sound out of my amp . This is the holy grail I don't want to turn it off. The problem is some one told me I can't get this sound out of the pa mains if I use this in front of my amp and I had to use the rack mount one and go into the effects return and I thought I could as long as I use my xlr out on the back of my amp is this true? if so I am way bummed because I love the sound and I want this to go through the pa mains.

[bongomania]

Here's the thing- if the sound you love is a combination of the Sansamp, your amp, and your speaker cab, then the only way to get that sound is to mic the cab! You can't get that "combination" sound taking a cable from only one of the pieces. If the sound you love can be gotten from just the Sansamp and the preamp stage of your amp, taking the power section and the speaker cab out of the picture, then you can use the DI out on the back of your amp to send that combined Sansamp-preamp signal to the PA.

There are some other variations on this line of thought, such as using a particular type of DI box to take the power section output of your amp and sending that signal to the PA, but it may not sound quite the way you'd expect.

[Bassbasixx]

I am confused I am new to this unit are you saying i can only get the sans amp effect with out the combination of my amp head if I have in front on a pedal board ? will it be close ?

[bongomania]

bass + Sansamp = one sound
bass + Sansamp + amp's preamp = another sound
bass + Sansamp + amp + cab = yet another sound

They're all do-able and fine; pick which one you like.

[Bassbasixx]

So your saying having the cord plugged into input of amp to output of sans amp with a cord plugged into input of sans amp to bass I will get that tone combined with amp settings eq ect less cabs to the mains using xlr out on back of amp with post eq engaged. and to get exact I would mic the cabinet.

[blipndub]

Yes and god only knows what the pa is going to sound like. different you can be sure. And I can't remember the last time I miked a cab for a live show. I think you would have to pay the sound guy extra.

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by Bassbasixx

So your saying having the cord plugged into input of amp to output of sans amp with a cord plugged into input of sans amp to bass I will get that tone combined with amp settings eq ect less cabs to the mains using xlr out on back of amp with post eq engaged. and to get exact I would mic the cabinet.

Yep!

[Bassbasixx]

I have had plenty of sound guys jacking up the sound back in the day, but i never ran any effects no pedal board ect. so even with the rack mount system there is no advantage correct ?

[bongomania]

I'm not sure what you're asking there.

[Bassbasixx]

Has anyone ever done both xlr out post eq and mic a cab for a stereo effect?

[Bassbasixx]

well what is the advantage of the rack mount version the man at the pa is still going to be able to alter your sound either way or am I missing something. what ever effects you use in front of your amp will be sent to pa using xlr out post eq on back of amp not just heard on stage correct ?

[bongomania]

People do sometimes send more than one signal to the PA desk (like a DI line and a mic on the cab), but it doesn't make a stereo effect, not without other processing.

[bongomania]

Originally Posted by Bassbasixx

well what is the advantage of the rack mount version the man at the pa is still going to be able to alter your sound either way or am I missing something. what ever effects you use in front of your amp will be sent to pa using xlr out post eq on back of amp not just heard on stage correct ?

Whatever pedals you put in front of the main instrument input on your amp are pre EQ, not post EQ.

And yeah, whatever signal you send to the PA will get EQ'ed, compressed, and messed with by the soundman regardless.