Sansamp BDDI Position

[Jawbone]

Just started dabbling in effects and picked on of these up. Is this an effect you want first, in the middle somewhere, or last? Should synth come before or after this? Thanks, JB

[bombpop14]

I use mine last going into the input, not the effects loop. I have the pedal on at all times, so it sits on top of my amp, like a DI (which is what I use it for as well).

[WoodyG3]

Originally Posted by bombpop14

I use mine last going into the input, not the effects loop. I have the pedal on at all times, so it sits on top of my amp, like a DI (which is what I use it for as well).

Me too.

[musicman7722]

it's a pre amp not an effect

[Jawbone]

Originally Posted by musicman7722

it's a pre amp not an effect

What do you need a pre-amp for when you have a pre-amp n your amp? So far I'm not that impressed with this thing, but I guess if you DI alot it has its place amongst bassists.

[wonderjosh]

It's used to add a bit of grit/color/fatness to your sound when used as a preamp.

You can use it as an overdrive pedal as well.

[Jazz Ad]

Originally Posted by musicman7722

it's a pre amp not an effect

It's both, which is part of what makes this pedal so great. Put it where you need it.

[fretno]

If I run effects they go before the BDDI , but I use it mostly just by itself and for direct recording , though i have used it for gigs both into a amp and without any amp at all . It's a great tool to have around . I love it for it's chimey grit . clippy : J bass, BDDI to cubase

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[Setebos]

I tried putting by SABDIP after an EHX Bassballs and the result was that the filter lost a lot of its sensitive. It became less responsive. Is this normal.

I got a pedal board and was thinking to try the SA at the end of the chain. Something like this:

Bass - Bassballs - Micro Qtron - Bass synth wah, Digitech Bass Driver - SABDIP

Any comments?? suggestions?

[Duke21]

Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

It's both, which is part of what makes this pedal so great. Put it where you need it.

+1

[G.Bisson]

last in the chain, as a preamp & DI

[sidez81]

I got my bass runnin into a MXR GT-OD and that into the BDDI DLX (its all my tone amp runs flat) then out to the amp. All my other pedals run in its loop (MXR bass octave dlx -> MXR env filter -> Digitech Whammy -> ISP decimator (if you run that last in the loop it even stops noise on the DI out) ). and my BOSS TU-3 is in the para out so I can leave it on.

[Bassmike62]

From the PBDDI user manual (haven't seen it mentionned in the BDDI manual):

PLACEMENT ORDER OF OTHER EFFECTS
One of the key attributes of any SansAmp is its responsiveness to the dynamics and nuances of your playing
technique. In most cases, your bass should be plugged directly into the SansAmp.We suggest experimenting
to find the order that’s best for you. As a general guide, we recommend:
Place the following effects BEFORE SansAmp PBDR:
Wah-Wah, Pre-Amp, Compressor, Fuzz Box, Envelope Follower.
Place the following effects AFTER SansAmp PBDR:
Chorus, Delay, EQ, Pitch Shifter, Reverb.
NOTE: Low quality digital effects placed after SansAmp PBDR may compromise your signal and degrade the
sound.

[topo morto]

Originally Posted by Bassmike62

Place the following effects AFTER SansAmp PBDR:
Chorus, Delay, EQ, Pitch Shifter, Reverb

Just remember to keep the level down if those pedals expect instrument level.

[SerratedBass]

The manual for my BDDI states that it should be first in the chain. Personally I use mine at the end, before the input of the amp, that way if using as a DI to FOH you won't lose any effects placed after it. I use a modded RAT in front of it. If you try running a distortion after it sounds awful IMO.

The PBDDI manual quote makes a lot more sense, as typically the pedals mentioned to be placed after the BDDI would be connected in the effects loop of an amp, rather than before the pre amp. This is more of an issue with guitar amps as it is to do with the level going into gain stages. Delays placed before a gain stage will result in less distortion with each quieter echo, after a gain stage, the distortion level will be the same for each repeat.