Sansamp Programmable BDDI

[OshKoshJoash]

Hey guys,

I have a question for you programmable BDDI users. I hope I can word this correctly.

So as I understand it, there are three separate channel switches. To assign a setting into one channel, you double tap the switch you want to assign it to.

Let's say you crank up the bass, cut the treble, add some drive. Save it into channel 1. Now you click to Channel 2. The knobs are still the same for channel 1, but the sound should be different per the previous saved setting. Now lets say I want to adjust the knobs for this current setting. Is that possible, or do I have to unclick channel two, then set, then save?

I just confused myself all over again. Can someone explain how this pedal works?

Thanks,
Joash

[gillento]

Originally Posted by OshKoshJoash

Hey guys,

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Let's say you crank up the bass, cut the treble, add some drive. Save it into channel 1. Now you click to Channel 2. The knobs are still the same for channel 1, but the sound should be different per the previous saved setting. Now lets say I want to adjust the knobs for this current setting. Is that possible, ...Joash

That's the way it works! Have fun

[98dvl]

Not sure I understand your question fully...

Let's say you adjusted your knobs and were happy and double clicked (saved) them to channel 1.... Now, you want to tweak things slightly and save them in channel 2. If this is the case (your knobs are still in the "channel 1" position), adjust the knobs and double click channel 2.

Let's say you're messing around trying to find something completely different for channel 3. So, your knobs are in some completely different position from channel 1 or 2. But, you decide you really want to do something similar to channel 1. If that's the case, switch to channel 1 and find the settings that were used as saved in channel 1. As you turn the knobs, the LED will flash. The faster the flashing rate, the closer you are to the saved setting. So, if you adjust the knobs to where there's no noticeable flash, you're in the "channel 1" knob setting. Adjust accordingly, and double click to save to channel 3. Channel 1 is unaffected in this situation unless you double click channel 1 again (if that's done, the channel is saved with the knob position at the time of the double clicking).

In general double clicking saves knob position at the time of double clicking to the channel you double clicked. Single clicking changes to the channel you single clicked... even though the knobs are not in the position you saved them to... but you can always reposition the knobs to the position that you saved them to.

This pedal would be a lot less confusing if it had powered knobs that returned to their position rather than using the LED flashing light... but I'm sure it'd be more expensive then.


Hope that helps!

[EricF]

After you've saved channel 1, and switch to channel 2, your sound will be whatever was previously saved to channel 2. While on channel 2, adjusting the knobs will affect that parameter ONLY. Here's the important part....all other settings will remain as previously saved on channel 2, unless you change them.

Another way to say it - an example...
- Channel 1 is set to "Fat Tube"
- Channel 2 is set to "SVT"
- Edit the "Fat Tube" sound, and save it to channel 1.
- Switch to channel 2. Adjust the Drive only.
- You have only changed the Drive setting for the "SVT" sound.
- The rest of the "SVT" settings remain unchanged until you adjust those knobs - regardless of the knob positions.

[OshKoshJoash]

What if you're in a channel with a saved setting, but wish to edit it when the knobs are in a different location?

For example:

Channel 1 has Bass set to 2 o clock. Save.
Switch to Channel 2, bass set to 5 o clock. Save.
Switch to Channel one. Bass knob is at 5 (when editing Channel 2).
What happens if I want to change the bass dial to 11 o clock? Will the tone not change until I pass the 2 o clock marker from the previous setting?

[OshKoshJoash]

Originally Posted by 98dvl

Not sure I understand your question fully...


Let's say you're messing around trying to find something completely different for channel 3. So, your knobs are in some completely different position from channel 1 or 2. But, you decide you really want to do something similar to channel 1. If that's the case, switch to channel 1 and find the settings that were used as saved in channel 1. As you turn the knobs, the LED will flash. The faster the flashing rate, the closer you are to the saved setting. So, if you adjust the knobs to where there's no noticeable flash, you're in the "channel 1" knob setting. Adjust accordingly, and double click to save to channel 3. Channel 1 is unaffected in this situation unless you double click channel 1 again (if that's done, the channel is saved with the knob position at the time of the double clicking).


Hope that helps!

I guess what I'm asking is, when you switch back to Channel 1 to are trying to find the settings with the knobs, and the lights are flashing, is the tone changing as the dials turn?

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by OshKoshJoash

I guess what I'm asking is, when you switch back to Channel 1 to are trying to find the settings with the knobs, and the lights are flashing, is the tone changing as the dials turn?

Yeah. That's why they flash - you're moving away from the saved setting, and you'll be able to hear it. IIRC, it'll flash faster as you get close to the saved setting.

You'll notice that when you reach the saved setting of that knob for that channel, it'll stop flashing. That's how you know what your saved setting was for that knob on that channel.

The light only responds to one knob at a time, so you can easily go from left to right and move the knobs to match the saved setting, or you can do the opposite and overwrite the setting.

[CEOofEVIL]

I've got one.

The operation is a actually pretty simple. If You save the settings they are digitally recorded into the unit. SO if you switch channels and even though the knobs show a completly different setting, they are actually at what you digitally saved them as.

As for the knobs being all crazy on a channel you want to adjust, just turn the knobs to whichever position you want and the pedal automatically makes the adjustments and puts it where its supposed to be. The 'lazy pot' feature also allows you to see where the knobs need to be for the particular setting via a blinking LED above each knob. So, say you're settings get all fussed up while the pedal is in a bag or somthing, you can easily readjust them to where they need to be. The light will blink slower if farther away from the saved setting, and more steady as it approaches it. Honestly though, since the settings are saved, the physical position of the knobs doesn't really affect you too much, past gain/level settings.

As far as volume goes, it slowly increases your level(Volume) to the level you have it set at, so if for some reason it's way too loud, you have more time to turn down.

I've got one and it's one nifty little metal box! Hope this helped/made sense!

[EricF]

Originally Posted by OshKoshJoash

What if you're in a channel with a saved setting, but wish to edit it when the knobs are in a different location?

For example:

Channel 1 has Bass set to 2 o clock. Save.
Switch to Channel 2, bass set to 5 o clock. Save.
Switch to Channel one. Bass knob is at 5 (when editing Channel 2).
What happens if I want to change the bass dial to 11 o clock? Will the tone not change until I pass the 2 o clock marker from the previous setting?

The setting for that parameter (i.e. Bass) will change when the knob is turned in any direction. The flashing lights tell you when you are getting closer to the setting last saved for that knob.

If you don't save the new setting, and move to another channel, when you come back the setting will be whatever was last saved - regardless of the knob position.

Wrapping your head around saved settings vs. knob positions can be a bit confusing. Once you get it, you're home free.

[OshKoshJoash]

Thanks for all the input guys, its definitely a bit more clear now. I guess i'll just have to buy one and try it out myself. I'm sure it won't be hard to understand once i work with it for a few minutes.