Searing, high-gain dirt, it's there somewhere...

CrispyDelicious · #1 04-29-2009, 06:48 AM

Opinion time, folks! I'm looking for the most in-your-face, brain-melting, searing, high-gain dirt out there. Something with crystal-clear note definition, and gain out the wazoo. I've been listening to sample after sample, but to my dismay, dirt samples on bass are played... bass-like! I'm having trouble finding bass samples played in the higher register, especially on 6+ string basses. I want to be able to turn my 6er (at least temporarily) into a high-gain, lead guitar wankfest (I have the range, so why not?). To top it off, fuzz seems to be the drink of the day, but all the fuzz I've heard lacks the note definition I'm looking for. Nothing I have played or heard as yet (fuzz or not) has the "bite" that I am looking for. Where to look?

And dag nabbit, don't tell me to play guitar!

bigchiefbc · #2 04-29-2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Opinion time, folks! I'm looking for the most in-your-face, brain-melting, searing, high-gain dirt out there. Something with crystal-clear note definition, and gain out the wazoo. I've been listening to sample after sample, but to my dismay, dirt samples on bass are played... bass-like! I'm having trouble finding bass samples played in the higher register, especially on 6+ string basses. I want to be able to turn my 6er (at least temporarily) into a high-gain guitar wankfest (I have the range, so why not?). To top it off, fuzz seems to be the drink of the day, but all the fuzz I've heard lacks the note definition I'm looking for. Nothing I have played or heard as yet (fuzz or not) has the "bite" that I am looking for. Where to look?

And dag nabbit, don't tell me to play guitar!

Sounds like you're looking for "Distortion" as opposed to "Fuzz". The only real distortion I've played is the Rat, which can definitely get high-gain, but I don't consider it searing. Searing usually means mid-scoop in my experience. I've heard good things about the Boss ML-2 Metal Core, which I think is supposed to be their highest-gain pedal. It has a brutal mid-scoop from the clips I've heard

CrispyDelicious · #3 04-29-2009, 06:55 AM

Thanks, I should clarify, this would be used strictly for lead/solos. I really am aiming to emulate a "metal guitar" lead tone. I will definitely check out those two.

The hunt beings anew!

rratajski · #4 04-29-2009, 07:00 AM

Have you considered using an octaver w/ a dirt pedal, like a Micro Pog with +1 octave (w/ or w/out the dry) while using a RAT?

**grygrx** · #5 04-29-2009, 07:02 AM

http://www.grygrx.net/Pedal%20Review...db_crushed.mp3

JohnPativens · #6 04-29-2009, 07:24 AM

Check this out..

Visual Sound Jekyll&Hyde soundclips

Listen to the Hyde channel.. I think that's great for leads. They also make the single Hyde channel stompbox, it's called the Son of Hyde.

CrispyDelicious · #7 04-29-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnPativens

Check this out..

Visual Sound Jekyll&Hyde soundclips

Listen to the Hyde channel.. I think that's great for leads. They also make the single Hyde channel stompbox, it's called the Son of Hyde.

THAT'S what I'm talking about!

theunknowndude · #8 04-29-2009, 07:37 AM

I know I keep being a bit of a relentless advocate of the guyatone TZ-2 fuzz,... but I only really plan on using mine for 'lead' places and to get some high gain parts in the song,... can get drowned out of the mix but with the octave up diode effect thing it has the high strings above the 12th fret really give great note definition on bass and let it squeal a bit more,... it may not be exactly what your looking for,...

have to agree,... that visual sound is insane,... especially with the wah as well! *goes off to check it out*

#9 04-29-2009, 07:52 AM

In my experience, "brain-melting, searing, high-gain dirt" and clarity is often hard to achive. But still, you might want to check out an MXR Blowtorch. They're good at the aggressive high-gain thing. Also, EBS makes a great overdrive pedal - very versatile. Lots of great comments about that one. I've tried and loved it. Probably going to get one.

jufros · #10 04-29-2009, 07:58 AM

The Gemini Drive has a LOT of gain and can definitely do what you're talking about.

RCCollins · #11 04-29-2009, 08:25 AM

tech 21 XXL bass. can't get much more biting than that!

CrispyDelicious · #12 04-29-2009, 08:37 AM

You mighn't have clips of yours yet, would you Mr Collins?

RCCollins · #13 04-29-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

You mighn't have clips of yours yet, would you Mr Collins?

dangit, i blew it and sold it to another TBer

**Bryan R. Tyler** · #14 04-29-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

I'm having trouble finding bass samples played in the higher register, especially on 6+ string basses. I want to be able to turn my 6er (at least temporarily) into a high-gain, lead guitar wankfest (I have the range, so why not?). To top it off, fuzz seems to be the drink of the day, but all the fuzz I've heard lacks the note definition I'm looking for. Nothing I have played or heard as yet (fuzz or not) has the "bite" that I am looking for. Where to look?

And dag nabbit, don't tell me to play guitar!

Maybe something like this? Listen to part from 3:35 on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYl0Gj3ieR8

It's in the upper registers of a six-string bass, but I'm not positive if it's the sound you're thinking of.

CrispyDelicious · #15 04-29-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

Maybe something like this? Listen to part from 3:35 on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYl0Gj3ieR8

It's in the upper registers of a six-string bass, but I'm not positive if it's the sound you're thinking of.

Hey yeah! That's what I'd like to see more of in demos. Exactly what I'm searching for. The dirt wasn't exactly what I'm after, but the high end work is right on the money.

4StringsEnough · #16 04-29-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RCCollins

tech 21 XXL bass. can't get much more biting than that!

+1. You took the words right out of my mouth!

dannybuoy · #17 04-29-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theunknowndude

I know I keep being a bit of a relentless advocate of the guyatone TZ-2 fuzz,... but I only really plan on using mine for 'lead' places and to get some high gain parts in the song,... can get drowned out of the mix but with the octave up diode effect thing it has the high strings above the 12th fret really give great note definition on bass and let it squeal a bit more,... it may not be exactly what your looking for,...

have to agree,... that visual sound is insane,... especially with the wah as well! *goes off to check it out*

Agreed - the Guyatone sucks low end, but is really ultra heavy yet still defined and could be just what you're looking for. Cheap too, I got mine in brand new condition for £25 delivered!

**Bryan R. Tyler** · #18 04-29-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Hey yeah! That's what I'd like to see more of in demos. Exactly what I'm searching for. The dirt wasn't exactly what I'm after, but the high end work is right on the money.

You might actually like the boring ol' Boss MT-2 then. I was using my Boss VF-1 for that clip, but the MT-2 can make that sound and add additional distortion/dirt in there. It's not an overdrive sound though, and it seems you might mean a really high-gain overdrive. Wish I recorded some stuff with my Bassdrive when I had it

MAMMOTHvolume · #19 04-29-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

THAT'S what I'm talking about!

+1 on that reminds me i need to get some new strings dirt + old strings or flats sound baaaaaaad with distortion

Bassenstien · #20 04-29-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by excane

Archers are attacking your landmine!

prolly a sign that you should do clips...