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11-21-2008, 06:31 PM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | A second delay?
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Well, should i pull the trigger and put a MXR Carbon copy right next to my Subdecay echobox? I tried playing the CC with a Visual sound delay to get the idea. I still need to play around with the settings but the potential is nice. Anyone have any good soundclips of two delays being used? Or suggested settings would be cool.
Also have my eye on the Catalinbread valcoder...If there's room on my board, it has to be filled!  | 
11-21-2008, 06:34 PM
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11-21-2008, 06:45 PM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | True, but people could say "I wouldn't suggest another delay and here's why". blah blah. | 
11-21-2008, 06:57 PM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | | Delay on delay is great on great.
Think Steve Brodsky delay/feedback loops...
Lots of potential, my friend.
I mean, at least you'd have two different delay settings, eh?
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11-21-2008, 07:05 PM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by rratajski Delay on delay is great on great.
Think Steve Brodsky delay/feedback loops...
Lots of potential, my friend.
I mean, at least you'd have two different delay settings, eh?
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True that. More inspiration is needed! | 
11-21-2008, 07:16 PM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | | Listen to Cave In's Until Your Heart Stops (especially the segues) or any Brodsky record.
Green stuff helps too...or at least it helps Steve Brodsky.
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11-21-2008, 09:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Berkshires, Ma | | | I used to have a couple patches set up with two delays on my Zoom. I had 4sec combined with around 400msec which was very nice and something like 300 with 450 which was a pretty cool rhythmic thing.
I'm not familiar with the Echobox or it's capabilities but I would suggest getting something with a different kind of character (ie digital vs analog) and having the potential for one very long and one shorter delay. | 
11-21-2008, 09:26 PM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | Yeah, the echobox is digital with 800ms and modulation controls. The Carbon copy is analog with 600ms(I believe) with modulation as well.
I'll try that one setting though. | 
11-22-2008, 06:29 AM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronicle Yeah, the echobox is digital with 800ms and modulation controls. The Carbon copy is analog with 600ms(I believe) with modulation as well.
I'll try that one setting though. | 600ms is correct, sir! | 
11-22-2008, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rratajski Listen to Cave In's Until Your Heart Stops (especially the segues) or any Brodsky record.
Green stuff helps too...or at least it helps Steve Brodsky.
Steve Brodsky...I just had to say it another time. | Too much green stuff and Steve goes drop d.... wuddupp Bro'sky!    | 
11-22-2008, 08:31 AM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | | Steve even did some stuff in B or C# when I saw him a few weeks ago w/ Zozobra! Never too much green stuff...or Brodsky. | 
11-22-2008, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chronicle Anyone have any good soundclips of two delays being used? | A while back Hellmut Hattler did a video using two delays and a second one, where he explaines his settings. Enjoy! 
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11-22-2008, 08:39 AM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | FACT One simply CANNOT have too many delays, and that goes double for analog.
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11-22-2008, 08:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West-midlands, England | | That Helmutt thing is amazing, im looking into theory and everything now and that is a great composition 
Know where I can get that song from? 
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11-22-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mini-flea Know where I can get that song from?  | Hattler Live Cuts.
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11-22-2008, 09:43 AM
|  | Jack Grundle and Chad Choad Builder for FUZZROCIOUS PEDALS | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ | | | That video is probably the best thing I've ever seen.
Time to go play w/ my walking delay and ps-3... | 
11-22-2008, 05:57 PM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | Hmm...ok so he did 1800 and 450ms. 450 is 1/4 of 1800 so i should try and get a 800ms/400ms delay thing going to test it out... | 
11-22-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mini-flea That Helmutt thing is amazing, im looking into theory and everything now and that is a great composition 
Know where I can get that song from?  | Hellmut usually starts his concerts with his band HATTLER by playing this solo.
The two CD set „Live Cuts“ is from 2007, and is just awesome!
In the UK, you can order it via Amazon.
Or buy directly from Hellmut via his online shop: http://www.bassball.net/BBshop/index.html | 
11-23-2008, 12:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeming, Western Australia | | | Just thought I'd drop in one thought. I've got a two delay thing going on in my board. Started out with the DD-20 and fell in love with delay so much that I ran out of presets. I then decided I should get a second and listed the things an analog delay could do that my digital couldn't. I ended up getting the echobox instead because it did all the things I was looking for in an analog delay. So my suggestion is instead to look at something like a DD-20 or SMMH or if you can afford something like an Eventide (I'll probablly one day trade up to this).
I bet the carbon copy is awesome. But I bet its not as awesome as the echobox and does similar things. Go for something with different abilities.
On the other hand, sounds like you wanna try it and it would be cool to hear someone compare the Echobox and Carbon Copy. Delay pedals are so awesome it really doesn't matter.
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11-23-2008, 07:26 AM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | echobox is digital ;x
plus i cant fit a big delay on the board. i can only fit a catalinbread and a mxr sized pedal on the board now | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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