Some more Subdecay Prototypes

TaySte_2000 · #1 11-08-2007, 06:22 PM

Now the soundclips are on guitar but you get the idea.

http://subdecay.com/gurgle.mp3

http://subdecay.com/echo.mp3

KarateKid25 · #2 11-08-2007, 07:12 PM

mmmm subdecay

markjazzbassist · #3 11-08-2007, 09:01 PM

that gurgle sounds pretty wet, i dig it.

TaySte_2000 · #4 11-09-2007, 01:49 AM

Apparently they are on Ebay to buy now no idea of the prices but they are generally pretty cheap, if any one finds them let me know how much they both are

TaySte_2000 · #5 11-09-2007, 01:54 AM

Not listened to this but should help us

http://subdecay.com/filterbass.mp3

markjazzbassist · #6 11-09-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

Not listened to this but should help us

http://subdecay.com/filterbass.mp3

interesting sounding filter. it doesn't sound like a normal envelope filter, it sounds like it got something else going on as well.

TaySte_2000 · #7 11-09-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist

interesting sounding filter. it doesn't sound like a normal envelope filter, it sounds like it got something else going on as well.

That could also be because Brian can't play bass for S*** hence why I do bass clips for him when he can be bothered

I'm looking forward to hearing this clip when I get home.

Jared Lash · #8 11-09-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by markjazzbassist

interesting sounding filter. it doesn't sound like a normal envelope filter, it sounds like it got something else going on as well.

Anyone else think it sounds a bit like a thicker, tamed down Bassballs? That's what I heard, at least from that clip.

**grygrx** · #9 11-09-2007, 11:58 AM

I'm getting one. What the hell.

TaySte_2000 · #10 11-09-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBigO

Anyone else think it sounds a bit like a thicker, tamed down BassBalls? That's what I heard, at least from that clip.

I guess it has a few BassBalls qualities but it sounds a lot bigger in the bottom end and a lot less subtle to me. I don't know, to me its kinda got a bassballs vibe to it, till I go listen to a BassBalls clip and the Gurgle easily better than the BassBalls but I've always hated that pedal.

Tis very cheap am tempted to buy one I know the production model will be in the same price range as his usual stuff so like $150 I'd guess I think there will be some changes but no idea what.

Jared Lash · #11 11-09-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TaySte_2000

I guess it has a few BassBalls qualities but it sounds a lot bigger in the bottom end and a lot less subtle to me. I don't know, to me its kinda got a bassballs vibe to it, till I go listen to a BassBalls clip and the Gurgle easily better than the BassBalls but I've always hated that pedal.

It definitely has the sort of very "vocal" quality that the Bassballs does (especially the second half of the clips), but as I said, thicker - meaning more low end.

I don't know about "less" subtle. It sounds more subtle than a Bassballs to me and that's a good thing IMO. While it can sound good, I often hear sounds coming from people using the Bassballs that I think are annoying.

It has an interesting sound though, and that's a prerequisite for a filter for me. It's why I like the Funk-A-Duck even though it has more synthy tones than most. EF's should be expressive IMO and so you need to find one that has the "voice" you dig.

I'll have to test out a Gurgle for myself.

TaySte_2000 · #12 11-09-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBigO

It definitely has the sort of very "vocal" quality that the Bassballs does (especially the second half of the clips), but as I said, thicker - meaning more low end.

I don't know about "less" subtle. It sounds more subtle than a Bassballs to me and that's a good thing IMO. While it can sound good, I often hear sounds coming from people using the Bassballs that I think are annoying.

It has an interesting sound though, and that's a prerequisite for a filter for me. It's why I like the Funk-A-Duck even though it has more synthy tones than most. EF's should be expressive IMO and so you need to find one that has the "voice" you dig.

I'll have to test out a Gurgle for myself.

It's less subtle than the BassBalls with the Dist off

but more subtle than the BassBalls with with Dist on

Jared Lash · #13 11-09-2007, 03:52 PM

That sounds about right.

UnDoNe · #14 11-09-2007, 03:59 PM

I'm totally digging that filter

UnDoNe · #15 11-09-2007, 03:59 PM

...as well as the cosmos, or so my signature would say!

TaySte_2000 · #16 11-10-2007, 12:14 AM

I just found out that the bass clip was done using a guitar amp and an SM57 so I'm of the mind it will sound considerably better through my rig

http://cgi.ebay.com/Subdecay-Gurgle-...QQcmdZViewItem

Info from Ebay

Subdecay Gurgle and Moan Proto Series
(color may vary)

The Gurgle and Moan is an envelope filter effect. This is a prototype pedal, and it does have some quirks and rough edges. On a few of them that we have built they oscillate with the resonance knob cranked. Also there is a bit of a "gurgle" in the background due to some crosstalk issues with the control voltage circuitry. I thought it sounded cool, although it may not be what everyone wants in a filter. Listen to the clips if you are curious.

here's a short demo http://subdecay.com/gurgle.mp3

This is a prototype pedal, and has no artwork, or labeling on the face of the pedal. There is a sticker on the back with a brief explanation of what the knobs do.

Controls

Lower right knob – Shape - Varies the shape of the filter from band pass or low pass.

Lower left knob – Resonance – accents the cut off frequency of the filter. (At max setting it may oscillate)

Upper right knob – Depth- varies how far your playing dynamics will modulate the filter cutoff frequency.

Upper left knob – Frequency – varies the cut off frequency of the filter

So Mark that explains some of what you might be hearing which I think he'll be changing in the production model to make them more refined but to me all I'm hearing is get this one and then get the slightly different production model as surely I'll have uses for the 4 filters I'll own.

For those that can't hear this is an up filter only, whether the production model will only do that I don't know

but at $89 can't hurt to try it (I keep mentioning this because to day I move into my flat and lose all my spare money I used for pedals :'( )

OhThePeacock · #17 11-10-2007, 10:56 AM

WOW 90$! What a deal, if I had the money I'd get it.

EDIT: Tayste have you tried the Stupid Box? If so how does a dist/OD setting sound on it?

syciprider · #18 11-10-2007, 11:06 AM

Can the freq range be adjusted? Right now it's in a range where it might be buried in a thick mix.

TaySte_2000 · #19 11-14-2007, 06:13 AM

So did anyone get one of these?

TaySte_2000 · #20 11-14-2007, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OhThePeacock

EDIT: Tayste have you tried the Stupid Box? If so how does a dist/OD setting sound on it?

I've discussed it with brian and it's based on 4 dirt boxes that you can go through and get their range of sound out of but all of them suck on bass (The originals that it's based on) but 2 of those pedals are a RAT and DS-1 so that will give you a rough idea of the sound but won't really sell it to you as a bassist.

It's one of the things I like about Subdecay if you email him about a pedal and say what do you think about it on bass he'll give you an honest opinion and a technical reason as to why it won't work instead of a Mike Fuller approach of yeah it will be great