Source Audio Dubstep - Page 5

AlvarHanso · #81 11-12-2011, 04:15 PM

The biggest positive of the MWBD Pro is the ability to use an EP to morph between presets. I love that because my preset 1/4 is a clean boost and "normal" distortion, so using the EP, I can add a touch of fuzz to boost the BEF sound. I see you could get the sound your looking for out of the standard BEF plus a distortion/octaver, and don't want to spend your money for you, so just adding my opinion that the BEF Pro's features appeal more to my needs. Hope the advice helps you either way.

JakeAndAirwaves · #82 11-12-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvarHanso

The biggest positive of the MWBD Pro is the ability to use an EP to morph between presets. I love that because my preset 1/4 is a clean boost and "normal" distortion, so using the EP, I can add a touch of fuzz to boost the BEF sound. I see you could get the sound your looking for out of the standard BEF plus a distortion/octaver, and don't want to spend your money for you, so just adding my opinion that the BEF Pro's features appeal more to my needs. Hope the advice helps you either way.

Okay. Thanks. I will go with the standard of both. They don't carry them in stores yet do they? I also heard they come with a wired hot hand. Any confirmation on that?

rsmith601 · #83 11-13-2011, 05:48 AM

All of our pedals ship with a little card in them with instructions for claiming a free wired Hot Hand. We usually ship them out the same day we get the request.

It seems there is a steady market if you want to upgrade to the pro models at some point.

The standard and pro models are both available. The Pro's have been on back order, but we should have more material this week.

MADChuudoku · #84 11-13-2011, 03:28 PM

So I'm going ahead and ordering the BEF from the uk distributor, but on their site it only offers wired hot hands for the first 4 orders of the BEF Pro, so I'm guessing I won't get one with the BEF??

rsmith601 · #85 11-14-2011, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MADChuudoku

So I'm going ahead and ordering the BEF from the uk distributor, but on their site it only offers wired hot hands for the first 4 orders of the BEF Pro, so I'm guessing I won't get one with the BEF??

If you really get stuck, contact us via our web site. We will ship one out to you for in exchange for the cost to ship to the UK. It is a small package and usually costs like $8.

MADChuudoku · #86 11-14-2011, 09:11 AM

thanks for the quick help! im going to contact the distributors and see what they say anyway, if i dont get one ill shoot you over a message on your website.

looking forward to the pedal!!

StyleFreaK · #87 12-19-2011, 02:45 PM

Well guys im totally zero on effects here, looking to build from scratch.I looked at the Bass envelope pro and i really want to know if i can use this as a stand alone processor.The only effect i own is a boss geb7 eq pedal :/. Will just the bass envelope be enough to play a show live, i will possibly need a slightly funky tone and a slightly harsh tone at times.If this isnt it, how many source audio products will i need to go on stage with a decent range of sound?Oh and im really taken by the hot hand

Eric! · #88 12-19-2011, 10:03 PM

You're gonna need some dirt.

I'd recommend FUZZ. A la, team_awesome fuzzmachine

Jimbo Prime · #89 02-01-2012, 10:30 AM

Sup guys,

I'm in an experimental ska/dub band and we are seeking that classic DnB/Dubstep/Grime "Reece" bass sound (Like Noisia have nailed) for some Grimey tracks.

I just received the Envelope Filter Pro, Bass Distortion Pro and Hot Hand. Had a play and pretty close to that "Dubstep" sound, but I'm a bit disappointed with the overal tone. It all seems a bit weak and muddy (Like when there is too much low-mid EQ) Also, I can't seem to get rid of the dry sound of the actual bass guitar. So basically it is just a held bass guitar note with a high-pitched synth wobble over the top. Do I need to spend more money to solve this (on pedals such as Synths, Octaves, Compressions and Reverbs)? I saw people mentioned a few other pedals, and that Nathan Navarro dude has quite a pedal board. I'm a poor student so I want the best effect as cheap as possible, especially as I have already rinsed £500 on Source Audio gear.

Maybe as I have experienced live Drum n Bass and Dubstep raves my expectations were set too high? Or am I just missing a serious trick here? Any help would be seriously appreciated.

itswac · #90 02-01-2012, 10:40 AM

You should be able to eliminate the dry tone by turning the mix knob all the way to wet. Which settings are you using on each pedal for your tone?

Jimbo Prime · #91 02-01-2012, 11:03 AM

Yeah I did do that, I also tried turning the clean mix down on the Distortion Pro but that just sounded weak. So is there a way of making that deep clean sound oscillate alongside that high synth sound? That would be half the battle!

Jimbo Prime · #92 02-01-2012, 11:08 AM

* I saw that you can daisy chain the two together, does this mean that I could then use the hot hand to express the clean mix parameter on the Distortion Pro as well as the Filter Pro?

Yurtra · #93 02-01-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo Prime

Yeah I did do that, I also tried turning the clean mix down on the Distortion Pro but that just sounded weak. So is there a way of making that deep clean sound oscillate alongside that high synth sound? That would be half the battle!

Where do you have the frequency knob set on the BEF Pro? I find that if you set it just a bit to the right of centre you get enough brightness to cut through while still sweeping the low end enough to get a convincing effect. Other things to consider are your placement of the Sweep Range knob as well as which effect in particular you have selected (I personally like #03 and find that more than a few of the effects do not work well at all for convincing wobbles). You should also look at the EQ to see if that helps as if you are using the default backpage settings whatever EQ adjustments you make should affect your dry and affected signal. I personally cut out a decent chunk of the deeper lows (around 64Hz) and boosted the low mids (125, 250, 500) slightly more to get clarity and to prevent boomy low end oscillations while still maintaining some bass presence.

Finally, the default Q setting in the backpage menu will likely only get you sub-optimal results. You may need to adjust it upward or downward depending on what sound you want. I personally adjusted it downward about 2-3 clicks.

EDIT: Also, just in case you haven't already tried to do so, be sure to turn the Mix knob on the BEF Pro all the way to the right —opposite from the Lo-Retain side! This is typically how I go about getting the wettest sounding effect possible for any of the settings on the BEF Pro.
Hope that helps at least somewhat!

Jimbo Prime · #94 02-01-2012, 01:26 PM

That post was massively helpful Yurtra!! Managed to get much closer to the sound that I was looking for. I find that overall, the distorted/synth sounds are all very similar and some don't appear to be useful at all. Would there be any synth pedals out there that anyone would recommend buying to put infront of my chain that would give a more authentic dirty Drum n Bass feel? Also would it be wise to buy a compression pedal?

Yurtra · #95 02-01-2012, 01:42 PM

Not too sure about what kind of synth pedals you could use as I don't personally use any... perhaps an octave pedal would help you get a synthier sound? Alternatively some sort of square wave synth? I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to synths so hopefully somebody a bit more experienced with them will chime in and either corroborate or correct my suggestions. :P

I have a Diamond Bass Compressor in my setup and have it placed AFTER my BEF Pro. I DO NOT use it while using my "Dubstep" patch, however, as I find that it squashes the signal a little too much for my tastes (particularly when I'm controlling the LFO) and I have to crank the master output of the compressor to make up for lost volume (which is too far removed from the typical settings I use on my compressor to be feasible in a live setting) but to be fair I have not experimented a whole lot with settings or pedal order as far as the compressor is concerned. I know that Nathan Navarro occasionally uses some compression in his setup but I am unaware as to what unit he uses and where in his chain it is placed.

The only pedals I use with my "dubstep" patch are some somewhat gated, heavily driven fuzz beforehand (IE Oxide) and heavy distortion afterward depending on what I'm going for (Darkglass B3k) and I find that they all work extremely well together. Occasionally I use my MXR Bass Octave Deluxe.

I'll post some pictures of my pedalboard at some point in the PYPB thread so you can get an idea of what my setup is like.