Source Audio Sourcerers Society (S.A.S.S.)

[CopperheadLXXIX]

Originally Posted by rsmith601

ANY of the knobs on these products can be assigned to the expression pedal or Hot Hand. In addition, you can define the range of the knob which the expression pedal is controlling!

Any chance the MWBDPro could get an update like this through the midi input in the future? I notice there are 2 unused "spaces" in the backpage.

The morphing is really, really awesome, but for some presets it would be cool to be able to just say adjust the output level or up the drive amount with an expression pedal.

[HolmeBass]

Originally Posted by rsmith601

I know I have said this before, but I need to say it again.

Last night I was carefully proofreading the final draft new Soundblox 2 Dimension Reverb manual. This pedal (and its other SB2 siblings) has so many nice little refinements, features and details which have grown out of the extensive and productive conversations we have here about the lack of perfection in our past products. Let me give a couple of examples:

ANY of the knobs on these products can be assigned to the expression pedal or Hot Hand. In addition, you can define the range of the knob which the expression pedal is controlling!

It is possible to easily determine the knob settings of any preset. No more guessing and/or forgetting.

I actually enjoyed reading the manuals!

Thanks to all of you for the constant flow of feedback on our products. It is incredibly valuable.

So... can I trade in my BEF for a price-break on the new and improved version?

LOL, really I'm mostly kidding, just loving the BEF, last night the phaser setting (the lower numbered of the two) just *killed* in a funky jam, so juicy but still present. Mmmm.

[itswac]

Are you experiencing no change in tempo at all when you send the MIDI clock?

Where do you have the speed knob situated? The position of the speed knob does divide the tempo into 1/4 1/8, 1/6 notes etc.

Originally Posted by tjaila

i narrowed my setup to just the BEFpro and my controller : the Gordius Little Giant, connected to eachother with a normal 5/5pins MIDI cable

i am able to select presets on the BEFpro using this setup (so i guess cable is working)

my LittleGiant is sending MIDI Clock (checked with Midi-OX)



nope, no pedal connected to the BEFpro
(i have one connected to my LittleGiant which i am able to use to morph my MWBD from preset 1 to 4, 2 to 5, ... using MIDI)

[tjaila]

Originally Posted by itswac

Where do you have the speed knob situated? The position of the speed knob does divide the tempo into 1/4 1/8, 1/6 notes etc.

djees... that simple heh...
i was testing it with a preset, so i suppose the knob was completely to the left when i saved that preset... giving a very slow bpm (i'm guessing : x4 slower)
now that i put it in the middle... problem solved
i guess it was working all the time, but i was blind and couldn't see !

thanks for the input, all of you !


T.

[rsmith601]

I think Will Cady (itswac) earned some points with the boss today

[rsmith601]

In general we use up all the code space with features on all pedals. I mean, why not? Sometimes we can add in a tiny thing or fix a bug after the fact, but big new features via software are not possible/practical.

On a new pedal such at the SB2, we can think about what goes in and what goes out right from the beginning. You will note there is no morphing on the reverb. Not enough code space.

[tjaila]

Originally Posted by rsmith601

I think Will Cady (itswac) earned some points with the boss today

did i make him look smart ??
i guess i did !

i'm ready to accept my SASS number now...
(MWBDPro & BEFPro & HotHand)

T.

[itswac]

Done!

Originally Posted by itswac

And so it was that on the 27th day of the 12th month of 2011th year, the Source Audio Sourcerers Society was born!

#1-rsmith601- President of Source Audio
#2-itswac- Bass extraordinaire and employee of Source Audio
#3-chris.gotfunk- BEF
#4-saltymonkey- Multiwave
#5-Smurf-O-Death- Classic Pro
#6-warwick.hoy- Multiwave Pro & Tri-Mod Wah & BEF
#7-bassmonkeee- Multiwave Pro
#8-RacerX1492- Multiwave Pro
#9-kenstee- Multiwave Pro
#10-zenbanshee- Classic Pro
#11-paulygonemad- Multiwave Pro
#12-Smallequestrian- What doesn't he have?
#13- JBYBJ- Multiwave Pro
#14- Skrogh- Multiwave Pro & Tri-Mod Phaser
#15- Plays_For_Dog- Tri-Mod Wah, BEF Pro & BEF
#16- Robertron- Bass Envelope Filter
#17- burk48237- Tri-Mod Wah
#18- unclejam
#19- j42- Multiwave
#20- Ba55Man1ac- Multiwave Pro & BEF
#21- papasound- Multiwave Pro & BEF
#22- Kwesi - Multiwave Pro & BEF
#23- SVTbass - BEF
#24- Bassist30 - BEF
#25- basehead - Multiwave Pro, BEF Pro & Hot Hand
#26- thatpatguy - BEF
#27- davedamage - Multiwave Pro and BEF
#28- voodoobassist - BEF
#29- cellkirk74 - BEF
#30- kester - Multiwave Pro
#31- CajunCanuck
#32- caeman - Tri-Mod Flanger, Tri-Mod Phaser, BEF
#33- tridacnid - BEF
#34- Gopher Bob - Multiwave Pro
#35- JesseRSA - lowly engineer who actually designs the Source Audio pedals
#36- dmonroe - Multiwave Pro
#37- AlvarHanso - Multiwave Pro & BEF Pro
#38- AJ Brown - Multiwave & BEF Pro
#39- alainkills - Multiwave & BEF Pro
#40- NicJimBass - BEF Pro
#41- Waveman - Multiwave Pro
#42- A Strohman - Multiwave Pro & BEF Pro
#43- mtshaw315 - BEF & Multiwave Pro
#44- lepreconbass13 - BEF & Tri-Mod Phaser
#45- RichardFoggo - BEF Pro, Multiwave Pro & Tri-Mod Flanger
#46- cssbass- BEF
#47- happybacon- ?
#48- Swimming Bird- BEF Pro
#49- chessrocks- Multiwave
#50- krunchy- BEF Pro
#51- Gadgetjunky- Classic Pro
#52- caffuchino - BEF Pro
#53- hibikus311 - BEF Pro
#54- CopperheadLXXIX - BEF Pro, Multiwave Bass Pro, Guitar Multiwave Pro
#55- Floyd Eye - BEF
#56- cbbrewer99 - BEF Pro
#57- big97ben - BEF Pro, Multiwave Bass Pro
#58- CaptainSir- BEF Pro, Multiwave Bass Pro
#59- Nighttrain1127 - BEF Pro
#60- Slackerprince - BEF & Multiwave Pro
#61- OlSkewl56 - Multiwave & Tri-Mod Phaser
#62- miguel master - BEF & Hot Hand
#63- djaxup - BEF, Multiwave & Hot Hand
#64- Dazonbass - BEF Pro, Multiwave Bass Pro & Hot Hand
#65- marmadaddy - Multiwave Bass Pro
#66- falconspatriots - Multiwave Bass Pro & BEF Pro
#67- HipsterBass - Multiwave Bass Pro & BEF Pro
#68- Damien_kr - Multiwave Bass Pro
#69- jsmilez - BEF Pro & Multiwave Bass Pro
#70- Holmebass - BEF & Hot Hand
#71- loanzac - BEF Pro
#72- aaronhutson - BEF & Multiwave Bass Pro
#72- 0vs1 - BEF
#73- BassBumps - BEF Pro & Multiwave Bass Pro
#74- DiscoFreq - Hot Hand Wah & Tri-Mod Wah
#75- fuzzychaos - Multiwave
#76- scottfeldstein - Multiwave Bass Pro
#77- spirit molecule - Multiwave Bass Pro
#78- flashboom - BEF
#79- Shenry - Multiwave Bass Pro
#80- billymoore04 - BEF, Multiwave Bass & Hot Hand
#81- tjaila - Multiwave Bass Pro, BEF Pro & Hot Hand

[kai_ski]

Originally Posted by rsmith601

Good question. Yes, indeed. You will have fun with it assuming it is not dumping deep pow in Little Cottonwood.

I missed all the pow last week while on a trip to Seattle. Thing about Utah is this: even if it stayed cold so the powder could stick around, it would all get skied out anyway. So many rippers out here.

Anywhere to pre-order the pedal?

[sleepy_monkey]

Question about the BEF and BEF Pro. Are the effects exactly the same? In other words, would I hear a difference in between the pedals effects? I like the idea of the BEF Pro and presets, but it sure does take up a lot of real estate...especially if I do the BEF Pro and the MWBD Pro. Decisions, decisions.

Also, if I got the BEF Pro and MWBD Pro, I would only really need 1 of the hot hands, correct? As long as I ran the 1/8" cable....so I could disengage one pedal and use the other with the hot hand or vice versa or both at the same time?

[tjaila]

1: i think so (but am not sure)

2: of this i am sure: it is indeed possible to use 1 hothand for both pedals, you connect the "sensor out" of one pedal to the "sensor in" of the other.

T.

[Skrogh]

Well the BEFPro has control over wet/dry, resonance and has one more filtersetting - the BEF doesn't.

[rsmith601]

Originally Posted by sleepy_monkey

Question about the BEF and BEF Pro. Are the effects exactly the same? In other words, would I hear a difference in between the pedals effects? I like the idea of the BEF Pro and presets, but it sure does take up a lot of real estate...especially if I do the BEF Pro and the MWBD Pro. Decisions, decisions.

Also, if I got the BEF Pro and MWBD Pro, I would only really need 1 of the hot hands, correct? As long as I ran the 1/8" cable....so I could disengage one pedal and use the other with the hot hand or vice versa or both at the same time?

BEF and BEF Pro have the same effects, but as others have noted, there are lots of extra control parameters on the Pro. It is much more than presets and the LFO.

With the pro you can daisy chain one hot hand to multiple SA pedals.

Good luck with the decision!!

[rsmith601]

Originally Posted by kai_ski

I missed all the pow last week while on a trip to Seattle. Thing about Utah is this: even if it stayed cold so the powder could stick around, it would all get skied out anyway. So many rippers out here.

Anywhere to pre-order the pedal?

Hmmm. Heli in BC??

The Expression Pedals came in to us today. 8th St. is likely the first to have them in stock. I am sure they would take an order from you.

[sleepy_monkey]

Originally Posted by rsmith601

Hmmm. Heli in BC??

The Expression Pedals came in to us today. 8th St. is likely the first to have them in stock. I am sure they would take an order from you.

They are accepting orders on Amazon via 8th Street for the BEF Pro but say a 3-5 week wait. Placing my order this weekend and getting in line!

[rsmith601]

Originally Posted by sleepy_monkey

They are accepting orders on Amazon via 8th Street for the BEF Pro but say a 3-5 week wait. Placing my order this weekend and getting in line!

We are shipping 8th Street lots of BEF Pros today. You will get it sooner rather than later!!

[djaxup]

The BEF is a miracle, truly. Thanks for putting out this piece of equipment.

[rsmith601]

Originally Posted by djaxup

The BEF is a miracle, truly. Thanks for putting out this piece of equipment.

Much more cool stuff to come!! Thanks for the nice comment.

[sleepy_monkey]

Where can I get the Source Audio expression pedal? I will need that for the Wah for the BEF Pro. Also, would you say that the wah function through the BEF Pro would replace my existing wah?

Or if there is no SA expression pedal, can you recommend a good one?

[kai_ski]

I just Pre-ordered one from 8th street. They said they're expecting them next week. If you read back in the thread SA said that they arrived in the warehouse and are preparing to ship.