Source Audio Synth Pedal - Page 11

**eddododo** · #**201** 01-13-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by willbassyeah

Hmm I just hope it is in the pro firmat

Couldnt imagine why it wouldnt

OhulahanBass · #**202** 01-13-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by willsellout

Awesome. If anyone can do a synth pedal right, its SA.

+1

Gadgetjunky · #**203** 01-13-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eddododo

Couldnt imagine why it wouldnt

I'm bettin it's a SB2. And if it is, allowing control of every parameter with Midi CC would be a good way to deal with the 2 presets.

rsmith601 · #**204** 01-13-2013, 06:35 PM

Please note that getting the pitch detection to work is a big and risky task. We are trying to get it done on the existing SA601 chip rather than moving to a more powerful version.

cheapbasslovin · #**205** 01-13-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

Please note that getting the pitch detection to work is a big and risky task. We are trying to get it done on the existing SA601 chip rather than moving to a more powerful version.

Everyone's counting on you. No pressure.

Edit::: FWIW I'm all about waveforms first, then filters and modulators second. You're definitely on the right track with getting pitch tracking right first.

Robin Ruscio · #**206** 01-13-2013, 07:52 PM

Interested in this as well. Synth sounds are hard to come by!

alainkills · #**207** 01-13-2013, 07:57 PM

I'm in to synth pedal hunting right now.
i hope this pedal will come soon

**eddododo** · #**208** 01-13-2013, 09:23 PM

this is my favorite thread right now, even if only in principle!

rsmith601 · #**209** 01-13-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eddododo

this is my favorite thread right now, even if only in principle!

And this is my scariest thread right now!

With that said, the input from all of you has been nothing short of amazing. Thank you.

sprag · #**210** 01-14-2013, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

And this is my scariest thread right now!

Just make it cheap small and with everything that everyone has posted they want in it and you'll have nothing to be scared about.

Bassmanbob · #**211** 01-14-2013, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

With that said, the input from all of you has been nothing short of amazing. Thank you.

Group hug

OhulahanBass · #**212** 01-14-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

And this is my scariest thread right now!

I can see that, allot to live up too when everyone seems to think it will be amazing, probably expected with such fantastic bass products

I'm sure what ever you all come up with it will be a must have. I have several hopes and dreams for it but above all I hope for multiple detuneable oscillators. Next, routing and modulation inputs for said oscillators, the ability to modulate waveforms with and envelope (in or external) will give such nasty exciting timbers. The rest of subtractive synthesis can be handled by the BEF and a comp if you cant fit oscillators, filter and envelopes in one pedal.

The best Markbass SS tones I got bypassed the SS filter and went through the BEF Pro. It was like the BEF begged to have a 3 osc synth voice through it.

Gadgetjunky · #**213** 01-14-2013, 08:51 AM

See, with an app like Midi Designer you can make you own GUI if the controls have CC's, this can control my BEF Pro, but only parameters that have been given CC's. And Midi Designer you could make as many 'presets' as you want, just need that midi adapter, and the new SB2 midi adapter is I/O, so maybe 2 way feedback stuff??

Jared Lash · #**214** 01-14-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OhulahanBass

I'm sure what ever you all come up with it will be a must have. I have several hopes and dreams for it but above all I hope for multiple detuneable oscillators. Next, routing and modulation inputs for said oscillators, the ability to modulate waveforms with and envelope (in or external) will give such nasty exciting timbers. The rest of subtractive synthesis can be handled by the BEF and a comp if you cant fit oscillators, filter and envelopes in one pedal.

The best Markbass SS tones I got bypassed the SS filter and went through the BEF Pro. It was like the BEF begged to have a 3 osc synth voice through it.

Just soley from a marketing and merchandizing perspective I'd think this approach would be the right one for Source Audio. Create a synth pedal that works on it's own but really shines when connected to a BEF Pro rather than cannibalizing the BEF and adding those features into the synth pedal.

OhulahanBass · #**215** 01-14-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadgetjunky

See, with an app like Midi Designer you can make you own GUI if the controls have CC's, this can control my BEF Pro, but only parameters that have been given CC's. And Midi Designer you could make as many 'presets' as you want, just need that midi adapter, and the new SB2 midi adapter is I/O, so maybe 2 way feedback stuff??

I'm going to have to get that app tonight! Thanks for making me GASy.

Gadgetjunky · #**216** 01-14-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OhulahanBass

I'm going to have to get that app tonight! Thanks for making me GASy.

Yea, someone else opened my eyes to this. And it's really cool, it uses the accelerometer and links wifi to computer/ipad/iphone for some neat wireless interaction.

I wonder if there are any undocumented CC's that we may be able to get to......hmmm?

How cool would this be:

rsmith601 · #**217** 01-14-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadgetjunky

Yea, someone else opened my eyes to this. And it's really cool, it uses the accelerometer and links wifi to computer/ipad/iphone for some neat wireless interaction.

I wonder if there are any undocumented CC's that we may be able to get to......hmmm?

How cool would this be:

You can do this. Jesse needs to check out the codes to be sure they are right. We are in NAMM prep mode, so please sit tight for a few days.

Gadgetjunky · #**218** 01-14-2013, 01:52 PM

Killer - no rush. Have fun!!

**eddododo** · #**219** 01-14-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared Lash

Just soley from a marketing and merchandizing perspective I'd think this approach would be the right one for Source Audio. Create a synth pedal that works on it's own but really shines when connected to a BEF Pro rather than cannibalizing the BEF and adding those features into the synth pedal.

absolutely agree!!! so much!!!!!

I think, to make the synth powerful enough and on the same level cost-wise as the other S.A. Pedals, that the synth pedal should not waste form-factor and knob space incorporating other pedals.

The MW Dist. is awesome with the BEF, but they didn't glue those together either..

Additional reasoning is that it could kill off the BEF or the New Synth Pedal to have two-in-one.. For example, I would get the synth pedal rather than the BEF pro if the synth had BEF functions; the problem is that you would probably NOT be able to get all of the envelope awesomeness into the synth pedal, so a pedal that is the superior envelope, but made market-obsolete, would just disappear into discontinued epic-used-sale-find-classic obscurity.

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Originally Posted by rsmith601

And this is my scariest thread right now!

With that said, the input from all of you has been nothing short of amazing. Thank you.

I have faith! just don't let the hungry market rush your guys. I would hate to have one more synth pedal on the market that is useless to me.

I have not read EVERY post here so forgive me, but here are my COMPLAINTS with the bass synth pedals out there now:

1) tracking tracking tracking; thank you for taking the necessary time to really get it right

2) I don't want an 80's synth lead pedal. I want BASS SYNTH, and not just 30 different BWOW/fizz variations.
I, we, are daydreaming of DEEP tones, fat sounds, dubby boom.

3)I imagine it's come up, but a full ADSR control is super essential, and inexplicably missing in so many envelope-driven devices.

ALSO!:
I hate to expose a little secret I use, but using something like an EHX freeze function in front of envelopes/fuzz/filtering is super effective... so maybe a note-sustaining tool would be a super amazing integration... perhaps on an outboard momentary footpedal

Thanks for listening!

**johndough247** · #**220** 01-20-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eddododo

I have faith! just don't let the hungry market rush your guys. I would hate to have one more synth pedal on the market that is useless to me.

I have not read EVERY post here so forgive me, but here are my COMPLAINTS with the bass synth pedals out there now:

1) tracking tracking tracking; thank you for taking the necessary time to really get it right

2) I don't want an 80's synth lead pedal. I want BASS SYNTH, and not just 30 different BWOW/fizz variations.
I, we, are daydreaming of DEEP tones, fat sounds, dubby boom.

3)I imagine it's come up, but a full ADSR control is super essential, and inexplicably missing in so many envelope-driven devices.

THIS +1,000,000