Specific blender question

[scHism]

I have searched but no answers, planning on getting the T1M mini blender and I need inputs.

I am running bass > hematoma > MXR BEF > Swollen Pickle > BF-3 > MXR BassDI > Korg PB > amp

I want to run the T1M mini blender, bass > input on T1M >

loop A send to hematoma > MXR BEF > Swollen Pickle > BF-3 > return to T1M

Loop B > DRY/no looped effects

T1M out to MXR Bass DI > amp

Would this pose a phasing issue? any other issues that might occur in this setup, comments, etc?

Thanks!

[scHism]

Any one?

[alec]

Originally Posted by scHism

Would this pose a phasing issue? any other issues that might occur in this setup, comments, etc?

Hard to say. I wouldn't think so, but then I didn't think my Milkbox would have phase issues in the same situation.

[cheapbasslovin]

It is going to be really hard to get an answer unless someone has tried out those specific pedals. One way you may be able to test is to passively split your signal, then record a bassline with your effects onto one channel and then record without on another channel and see if they cancel each other. If you have gear to get that done.

Outside of that I expect trial and error is the method.

I don't have any of those pedals except the M80, and you're not running that in parallel (neither do I for that matter).

Sorry I have nothing more useful to offer.

Good luck.

[alec]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

One way you may be able to test is to passively split your signal, then record a bassline with your effects onto one channel and then record without on another channel and then line them up and see if they cancel each other.

I doubt that would work because the two channels won't be identical.
But with the right recorder you could record a clean track and then bounce that to another track while routing the signal through the effects.

[alec]

Or - the M80 has a parallel out. You could split the signal with that (pre effects), if you have a way of combining them back together or recording/monitoring both at once.

[cheapbasslovin]

If you passively split the signal, that should be two identical signals routed through what I would presume to be identically designed mixer channels (notice I didn't ASSume ). The only variable should be the effects. That was my thought process there.

I didn't think splitting the M80 was a good idea because the parallel and effect out signals are routed through different processing. It also seemed more likely to me that re-amping could cause a phase issue due to repetition of the recording process.

I'm not dead certain about any of this, but this was my logic behind my suggestion.

EDIT::: Fixed my first post also.

[bongomania]

Trial and error is the only way to find out if there will be problems with phase; and trial/error is the only way to dial in the correct solution.

[cheapbasslovin]

I still think my idea could work as a test method, but the only way to know for sure is to get all the gear in place and after that...

trial and error .

[alec]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

If you passively split the signal, that should be two identical signals routed through what I would presume to be identically designed mixer channels (notice I didn't ASSume ). The only variable should be the effects. That was my thought process there.

Sorry, I misread your post and thought you were talking about laying down separate takes!

I tried splitting my signal with my VT Deluxe and putting the Milkbox on one path. When I play both tracks back together, I get the phase cancellation.

[Aaron_D]

I get weird cancellation with my VT pedal when blending it with my clean signal, but with the x-blender's phase switch...all is well. However, I never know what combination of settings will necessitate flipping that switch. I usually dial in my settings, flip the switch, and see which one sounds better.