Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Effects [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-19-2009, 07:23 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
splitter cable I made causing feedback, needs a diode?

Sign in to disble this ad
I made a splitter cable so that I could hear my clean tone at the same time as my fuzz tone, looking back it could have been designed significantly better.

When I plug it in it certainly works as I want it to, and I can get a lovely balanced wet/dry mix just by changing the level on the fuzz to my liking, but when I am not playing, it creates a horrible loud whistling feedback.

The cable works as follows:



...........FUZZ.......
..........>....<......
..........|....|......
AMP <----------------< BASS



So basically, my signal gets split before the fuzz box then re-mixed with the clean afterwards.

I guess the reason I'm getting feedback is because distorted output from the fuzz box simply flows 'backwards' down the wire back into the input of the distortion.

Am I right in thinking that a 'diode' is what i need here to ensure current only flows in one direction? Where in the circuit should it go?

Thanks.
  #2  
Old 05-19-2009, 07:32 AM
Jazz Ad's Avatar
I took the one less traveled by
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Reims, Champagne, France
GOLD Supporting Member
Yes, that's a marvellous feedback loop you made there.
You need buffers to prevent this phenomenon. A single diode isn't going to fix the issue since you're dealing with AC currents.
The simplest way to achieve this is to use a blender such as a Boss LS-2 or any other.
  #3  
Old 05-19-2009, 07:33 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lafayette, LA
A diode would work if you were working with DC, but an audio signal is AC
__________________
My posts are definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
  #4  
Old 05-19-2009, 07:36 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Right, thanks. At least I've learned from this experience!
  #5  
Old 05-21-2009, 05:55 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Send a message via MSN to TheBassBloke
Quote:
Originally Posted by pricey View Post
I made a splitter cable so that I could hear my clean tone at the same time as my fuzz tone, looking back it could have been designed significantly better.

When I plug it in it certainly works as I want it to, and I can get a lovely balanced wet/dry mix just by changing the level on the fuzz to my liking, but when I am not playing, it creates a horrible loud whistling feedback.

The cable works as follows:



...........FUZZ.......
..........>....<......
..........|....|......
AMP <----------------< BASS



So basically, my signal gets split before the fuzz box then re-mixed with the clean afterwards.

I guess the reason I'm getting feedback is because distorted output from the fuzz box simply flows 'backwards' down the wire back into the input of the distortion.

Am I right in thinking that a 'diode' is what i need here to ensure current only flows in one direction? Where in the circuit should it go?

Thanks.
Hey man,
We'll because you're using Audio signals, which as you may or may not know are waveforms, you're dealing with alternating current. Diodes only with with DC where the current is flowing in one direction :P

best way is to probably just buy a line selector, or maybe ground it..? I would just go for something simple like that beige boss thingo. ls2 i think? Or the xotix x, pretty much the same as the boss, but sexierrrrr
__________________
TheBassBloke
Fender J, A P bass I made, Yamaha of some sort.
  #6  
Old 05-21-2009, 05:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Canberra, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBassBloke View Post
Diodes only with with DC where the current is flowing in one direction
Semantics, I know, but diodes do "work" with AC signals, but they do strange things to them.
__________________
niftydog

"My feet itch." Mike Patton
  #7  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:55 AM
Jazz Ad's Avatar
I took the one less traveled by
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Reims, Champagne, France
GOLD Supporting Member
At least they don't work to prevent feedback, which is our concern here.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:06 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.