Suggestions Fuzz Pedal
It's my first post in this forum so excuse me if I'm doing something wrong!
Well, I'm looking for a new fuzz pedal. I have a EHX Bass Big Muff but I feel that sometimes it cuts too much low end and if I turn the tone down it gets all "muddy".
I was searching and I found this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJD8cZbQChU
I really liked the sound it offered but I just can't find it anywhere what makes me think that probably it was discontinued.
What I'm asking you is that if you find an online shop with it tell me please, if you can't find it could you recommend one with a similar sound?
Thanks in advance!
Do you want a muff type fuzz specifically? If so I couldn't recommend a wren and cuff tall font Russian or pickle pie b. More expensive but worth the money and blows the ehx bbm out of the water (virtually any fuzz pedal would)... if you're going for another flavor of fuzz then definitely look into an iron ether oxide or Team awesome fuzz machine. You will have to spend more money on these, and for good reason. Personally I've played all the ones I've listed but own a tafm. Again price will be higher on these but I noticed a difference immediately.
I just recently wrapped up my search for distortion. I ordered a Fuzzrocious Rat King. I'm still waiting for it as I believe it was being built. I am very excited for it to get here. I chose the Rat King based on some internet sound clips and talking to others who had one. I like my bass to sometimes sound like a giant tentacle crushing the life out of a starship.
A decade long search ended for me when I figured out that (for me, blah blah blah) the best distortion sound came when the dry signal remained intact for focus and low end and the distorto-madness was blended in on top.
Check out using any grit pedal (i.e. not made just for bass) with a Rocktron Tru-Loop, Radial BigShot MIX, or similar.
To answer your questions, Fender SubLimes show up in the talkbass classified section from time to time, just have to keep watching there. That particular YouTube clip features more heavy overdrive sounds instead of all out fuzz craziness. For comparable sounds, look at the smallsound/bigsound Team Awesome Fuzz Machine or Blackout Effectors Musket fuzz. Both of those have controls that can dial in a lot of overdrive type sounds. I've never owned a Fuzzrocious Rat Tail, but the suggestion seems good for heavy crunch/borderline fuzz at high gain, which again is what the clip reminded me of.
Unfortunately, decent fuzzes require a step up into the higher price tier from the Bass Big Muff.
Thank you all for the answers!
I've been listening to all the pedals and the ones who stood up for me were:
- Fuzzrocious Rat Tail
- Wren & Cuff Tall Font Russian
- Wren and Cuff Pickle Pie B
- The Iron Ether Oxide left me a little bit torn apart because all the clips I've listened gave me different ideas. The one that I liked most was this one http://ironether.com/pedals/oxide/ in the sound samples the brassy one.
- The Team Awesome Machine also left me a little confused because I listened to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOmBcH43zrg and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6u67lFEpH8 and the latter is just too much to me.
- Other pedal that I found was the Earthquaker Devices Hoof Fuzz that although being made for guitar, sounded really nicely in bass.
So once again I ask you (specially if anyone owns one of these pedals) which one can give me a fuller sound, not just the fuzz but also the warmth of the bass.
Thank you once again!
As others have too I have experience with all those pedals, and the one that had the "warmest" tone to me was the tall font Russian IMO. HUGE lowend from the tone knob. Really thick fuzz.
I really liked the Tall Font Russian but it may have a little too much muff sound for me.
I started searching again and found the Aguilar Agro and I know that it is not a fuzz, but it had a tube amp sound that sounded cool.
Has anyone tried it or a similar overdrive?
Thanks one more time!
You're hearing different things from those YouTube clips partly because of what I mentioned before about pedals sounding different through different rigs and partly because those pedals in particular are very versatile. The Team Awesome Fuzz Machine and IE Oxide have the ability to create lots of different sounds, plus they have blends that let you mix in the clean bass signal (your warmth). You have to spend a bit more time with pedals like those to mess with the controls and find different tones, but you're more able to dial in something to fit your taste.
The TFR is a quintessential green muff fuzz for bass and has huge low end. A lot of the clips you'll hear online are super fuzzy, but you can dial back the distortion knob to almost zero while cranking the volume and get a great overdrive sound. It actually has a lot of range. What it doesn't have is a mid control (since it's true to a muff), so sometimes the fuzz/distortion doesn't slice in a mix, but the low end is always there. It shakes walls.
As for the Agro, search for some dedicate threads to that pedal. I've never used one, but there are lots of fans here.
You may want to save up and hold out for a Darkglass fuzz, which is rumored to be their next pedal. The Darkglass pedals all excel at keeping bass warmth while adding in distortion. Otherwise, any of those pedals you listed on your radar are excellent, just different flavors. Because every pedal (ESPECIALLY fuzzes) will sound different in your rig and in your band than in someone else's, you really just need to grab one and try it. Any of them would be easy to sell here in the classifieds if it doesn't suit you.
I have 35 manufactured OD/fuzzes and another 150 clones that I built. if it helps (or adds to your confusion :eek:) I have posted soundclips of a lot of them on THIS PAGE.
The TAFM can get very subtle with the clean blend. It's very versatile.
My advice: Do the volume mod on your EHX first. It'll cost you about $5 in parts, only requires amateur skills, and takes less than ten minutes. It will GREATLY improve the usability of the pedal, and if you still don't like it you can sell it for ten dollars more than the stock version.
If you do this first you will see how vital it is to have a blend function on the pedal cause my next advice would be to search out a fuzz with a blend, or invest in a blender for whatever you end up choosing... cause, even if it sounds good by itself, it likely won't sound good with a band unless you have a blend.
I really less than three my Fuzzhugger Bass Bloom.
For fuzz, I really enjoy my Swollen Pickle and Red Ripper (not at the same time of course)
Ps, get rid of the EHX BBM. There's tastier fish in the sea.
The Darkglass pedals have a great sound! Specially the Darkglass Vintage! Has anyone tried it? Is there any news about the Darkglass Fuzz?
johnk_10 thank you very much! You have there some really cool sounding pedals! The Zvex sounded particularly well!
DagoMaino improving the EHX seems like a nice idea but I have to think if it's worth it. The blender is something that I'm looking for in the new pedal. That's why I'm a little concerned with Aguilar Agro.
winterburn69 those two are too "agressive"/"sinthy" to the sound that I'm looking for.
Thanks once again for all the help!
I just picked up a Mojo Hand BMP-1. It's a russian muff clone, it's awesome, not super versatile but great heavy fuzz without being zippery.
also the Mojo Hand Colossus, it's great, a lot of great heavy tones and or grindy brighter tones. great tones and all totally different than the BMP-1.
Both are worth having since they are different enough.
There's apparently a 3Leaf Fuzz in the works as well. I know Spencer builds for Darkglass as well as 3Leaf, so I'm not sure if they both are coming out with a fuzz. I'm pretty sure Spencer's is 3Leaf, but it would be better to hear it from the man himself.
The HBE Hematoma is a great pedal. And even though the Power Screamer or the Big D are not bass pedals they aren't bad.
It's a great time to be a bassist. Great pedals, light loud amps and fall is coming.
Yes it's just glorious!
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