Sunn O))) - Page 2

Fuzzbassian · #21 11-30-2012, 12:54 AM

what they are saying is that you could try any amount of fuzz pedals and you still won't get anything near that sound.Quite simply,no pedal won't get you a sound quite like that.
Just try a really large tube amp,crank the volume,and use a fuzz pedal with the gain set quite high.Cut the highs,boost the lows,and you'll be sort somewhat slightly getting there.

mc_muench · #22 11-30-2012, 01:17 AM

but the rode is definitely important

falconspatriots · #23 11-30-2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzbassian

what they are saying is that you could try any amount of fuzz pedals and you still won't get anything near that sound.Quite simply,no pedal won't get you a sound quite like that.
Just try a really large tube amp,crank the volume,and use a fuzz pedal with the gain set quite high.Cut the highs,boost the lows,and you'll be sort somewhat slightly getting there.

+1

I had actually never heard of these guys until now. I listened to a few songs and I kind of dug it. I like post rock/ ambient/ sludgey/ doomy so this works.

Getting this sound is about being loud plain and simply!!! Try getting a distortion with feedback looper in it.

Josh Pelican · #24 11-30-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzbassian

what they are saying is that you could try any amount of fuzz pedals and you still won't get anything near that sound.Quite simply,no pedal won't get you a sound quite like that.
Just try a really large tube amp,crank the volume,and use a fuzz pedal with the gain set quite high.Cut the highs,boost the lows,and you'll be sort somewhat slightly getting there.

Thank you. No single pedal will make you sound like Sunn. I've been listening to them long enough to know that.

Not trying to be a dick or anything. Just being honest.

bearhart74 · #25 11-30-2012, 05:39 AM

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i wish i had thought of that

Gabeja15 · #26 11-30-2012, 08:36 AM

best i can figure, your going to need three pedals (assuming you don't have a gigantic tube head).

1. Start with a preamp to emulate an overdriven tube amp. Nothing too high gain, and I would try and avoid "overdrive" pedals in favor of a dedicated preamp. A VT bass is the natural candidate, although a Tonehammer, B3k or Verellin meatsmoke pedal would be great if you have large amounts of disposable income.

2. Run that into a muff-based fuzz pedal. There are a lot of options here, none of them wrong. EHX bass big muff would get it done on the cheap. Look into a Grey Stache, Supercollider or Verellin Big Spider for a bit more.

3. Finish off with a little reverb. Can't remember where i read it but i think one of the guys in Sunn O)) used a nano EHX holy grail.

I know this may cause some controversy, and there are a thousand ways to try and get that sound, but this is the way i would go about it without dropping a few thousand bucks

JoeVictim · #27 11-30-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Pelican

Thank you. No single pedal will make you sound like Sunn. I've been listening to them long enough to know that.

Not trying to be a dick or anything. Just being honest.

+1.

OP, this is really it.

Fellow doom bassist for Bongripper is using a Darkglass B7K. He just told us how thick it made his practice amp.

his quote: "However, with the addtional EQ on the B7K I was able to dial in some pretty heavy gain tones, and by pretty heavy, I mean massivly huge sounding bass tones. With my Ric into my 80's GK combo at home the B7K made all my other pedals sound like they were coming out of a tin can by comparison. I am honestly shocked at how thick the low end is on this pedal."

Of course, the combo won't make it feel like Sunn, but god luck and good speed!

mc_muench · #28 11-30-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeVictim

god luck and good speed!

God dont need luck, and God doesnt settle for good speed, it has to be great speed.

Ron Now · #29 11-30-2012, 02:27 PM

They use old rats to slam the multitudes of model t's they run. Probably reverb too.

The guitars are the wall of sound, but the real punishing factor from seeing SUNN live is the synth...bowel destroying low end.

NKUSigEp · #30 11-30-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mc_muench

God dont need luck, and God doesnt settle for good speed, it has to be great speed.

Weedeater lyrics fail.

D.A.R.K. · #31 11-30-2012, 03:20 PM

Didn't see it mentioned, at the show I worked at this past summer the low end was moog keys... you can kind of see them in the center of this crappy pic of sound check. So, to cop some of those types of lows, maybe try starting with a couple of moog low pass filters, envelope off, resonance up and expression pedal controls for the frequency. Then run into fuzz and fx...

stanner · #32 11-30-2012, 03:26 PM

I was waiting for that last response! the question is so vague-SUNN live or in studio-a particular album or live show-how many members involved-there are a myriad of things that happen for Sunn music. I would say experimentation is your friend

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necropain · #33 11-30-2012, 04:10 PM

1. just saying i never asked for a "single" pedal i was not specific at all.
2. this is an effect forum why does everyone just preach amp compresser and tuner is all you need. just wondering.
3. thank you to all who gave a non detracting comment.
4. mainly i wanted to know how they got their sound that fuzzed out i knew it had to be loud derp derp. i still have never found a fuzz that intense to this day and i was wondering if it was one fuzz or many or if it was octave down+fuzz or that plus low pass or what kind of reverb since its obviously in use.
and again thanks to all who didnt just say loud amps.

Ron Now · #34 11-30-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by necropain

4. mainly i wanted to know how they got their sound that fuzzed out i knew it had to be loud derp derp. i still have never found a fuzz that intense to this day and i was wondering if it was one fuzz or many or if it was octave down+fuzz or that plus low pass or what kind of reverb since its obviously in use.
and again thanks to all who didnt just say loud amps.

It's Rats. Specifically old Rats with LM308's they run layer after layer of guitar and bass through them and then top it off with a moog synth for extra rumble.

Perhaps there is a fuzz or two in there somewhere. But overall Rat is the answer.

D.A.R.K. · #35 11-30-2012, 04:43 PM

I think the fuzz is mostly coming from the guitars,
the type of effect you are thinking about could be a sum of the parts- I do something like this in my effects chain, by splitting my signal and applying fuzz to one part, sub effects to another, and then layering them. Super clean sub harmonics and crazy, throttled top end. Like Ron described, but just from one instrument...

NKUSigEp · #36 11-30-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by necropain

1. just saying i never asked for a "single" pedal i was not specific at all.
2. this is an effect forum why does everyone just preach amp compresser and tuner is all you need. just wondering.
3. thank you to all who gave a non detracting comment.
4. mainly i wanted to know how they got their sound that fuzzed out i knew it had to be loud derp derp. i still have never found a fuzz that intense to this day and i was wondering if it was one fuzz or many or if it was octave down+fuzz or that plus low pass or what kind of reverb since its obviously in use.
and again thanks to all who didnt just say loud amps.

1 -

2 - I think you got trolled by a few casual on-lookers as the die-hards would NEVER go bass-> tuner-> compressor-> amp. EVER.
3 -

4 - We pretty much established this. The fuzz you're hearing is mainly the loud-ass guitars but there's definitely some dirty bass going on...there was a comment regarding using a preamp, a muff-type fuzz, and some sort of reverb to achieve a good enough clone of the bass tone which I thought was a stellar response. And then someone also mentioned if you were after the live vs. studio, which period/song/band member, etc. which was also a good point to keep in mind.

As it's been said, God luck and good speed!

waynobass · #37 11-30-2012, 05:16 PM

I thought a key part of their sound is expensive and heavy steel (or aluminum?) instruments.

I have their album with Boris and like it a lot.

Ron Now · #38 11-30-2012, 05:26 PM

Nah,

They might use beans or ECG's now but I know they used LP's when I saw them a few years back.

knumbskull · #39 11-30-2012, 06:19 PM

just as a matter of reference, Youtube is the absolute worst way to try and decide if you like this band or not. HTH

Tractorr · #40 12-01-2012, 09:45 AM

Yeah my comment was serious. You will get Sunn 0))) tone by using a number of tube amps driven really hard with different amps being EQed to pull out different frequencies. It isn't just a matter of distortion or fuzz.

Also, I would say that an octave down will not really get you that sound. I tried that it doesn't really work. You would be better tuning lower. I am not sure what tuning Sunn O uses.