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Old 12-26-2011, 09:21 PM
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Why is so hard to find a Serrano Picoso from Catalinabread? There are none to be found on eBay or on the classifieds here.

I need a very small booster pedal to fit on my board. The Serrano Picoso seemed like the perfect fit. But of course I can't find any.

Are there any other similar sized pedals that will do the job?

I also have heard about the SFXsound B3 . But I couldn't find any sound clips or videos or reviews.

http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=b3

Anyone have any experience with them?

Come on, help me out here and recommend something.

A nice small compact clean boost or simple tone shaper. Thanks!
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:22 PM
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SFX B^3, Xotic EP Boost are the only two that I can think of off the top of my head.
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:36 PM
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The EP Boost should work absolutely fine on bass right?
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:25 PM
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The Echoplex circuit that the Xotic is based on does reduce the lows a bit. It's still very good for bass in general, but if you're trying to keep a massive low end, it might not be the pedal for you.

I haven't tried the [sfx] B^3 yet, but I have used their "regular" clean boost and it is excellent.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/th...review-711043/

Didn't Malekko also make a micro sized boost? Also check out This1smyne.
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:48 PM
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This Thumpinator, it looks intriguing. I watched the clip and the difference in the speakers jumping around was incredible. What exactly does it do? A compression of some sort?
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:52 PM
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The Micro Thumpinator is a high order filter effectively removing all the sub sonic frequencies 30Hz and below.
When your amplifier and speakers try to reproduce those sub sonic tones it can rob you of head room, punch and clarity, muddy up your sound. It can also cause excessive speaker heating and excursion. The mThumpinator is also a nice buffer or line driver.
I have found that it can also reduce rumble when recording.
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:54 AM
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clips or vids for the B3 please?..
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:28 AM
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If you like [sfx] products, B3, micro-EQ and to some extent the micro Red Dragon can all operate as boosters, however, the ultimate clean booster is the micro-Boost.

For some reason, all the boosters I tried or clipped, or had a low gain or required 18V power supply to perform acceptably. I decided that the best place to start was designing something that worked for me: easy to use, 9V power supply, no clipping, flat frequency response and capable of driving long cables.

First, I designed the Blue Dragon but after a while I realised that I could put the same electronics in a micro-enclosure. The micro-Boost has a huge headroom (>30V peak-to-peak) and the frequency response is flat with no distortion.
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:22 AM
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The Micro Thumpinator is a high order filter effectively removing all the sub sonic frequencies 30Hz and below.
When your amplifier and speakers try to reproduce those sub sonic tones it can rob you of head room, punch and clarity, muddy up your sound. It can also cause excessive speaker heating and excursion. The mThumpinator is also a nice buffer or line driver.
I have found that it can also reduce rumble when recording.
This sounds really amazing. I'm thinking that if I purchase it, I can place it last in my chain to tame all those insane peaks caused by some of my effects.

However, (for Silent Fly) is there a way to add a bypass switch to it? I would just feel a lot more comfortable with that option available to me.

Or, now I'm thinking I can place it in the effects loop of my Carvin R1000 and soon-to-be-purchased B2000 which can be taken out of the signal path with the footswitch.

Does it make sense to want to bypass it?

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If you like [sfx] products, B3, micro-EQ and to some extent the micro Red Dragon can all operate as boosters, however, the ultimate clean booster is the micro-Boost.
I'm really thinking of going with the B3. I'd love some additional tone shaping on channel B of my pedalboard.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:54 AM
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.......However, (for Silent Fly) is there a way to add a bypass switch to it? I would just feel a lot more comfortable with that option available to me.

Does it make sense to want to bypass it?



I'm really thinking of going with the B3. I'd love some additional tone shaping on channel B of my pedalboard.
I'm sure Max could add a switch but really why would you want to?
[sfx] offers several choices for tone shaping the B3, the Micro EQ and also the AY2*. Max could do a custom box by combining those under one roof.
* The AY2 is Max's improvement on the Yamaha NE1 box, it offers a bit of boost (maybe 6db) and tasty shaping for your mid range, there is a thread running on it, search be your friend.

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Old 12-27-2011, 11:44 AM
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Does it make sense to want to bypass it?
No. The Thumpinator has NO effect on anything above 30 Hz (approx). It does not change the tone of anything you would want to hear, it only "kills" useless rumbling/thumping noises that are not part of your tone.
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I'm thinking that if I purchase it, I can place it last in my chain to tame all those insane peaks caused by some of my effects.
Yes and no. It will tame peaks that occur below 30 Hz, but you will find that most peaks caused by effects are well above that frequency. Even the ones that sound like insanely low booms are often centered around 80-120 Hz.
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However, (for Silent Fly) is there a way to add a bypass switch to it? (...)
In theory, it can be done. It would require a bigger box. There isn't any space left in the micro-Thumpinator box

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Does it make sense to want to bypass it?
Occasionally, some people ask for a bypass added to the micro-Thumpinator but I never actually built one with a bypass switch.

To be entirely honest, I don't think it makes much sense. I use it for live and recording but I never switch it off or take it off the chain.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:03 PM
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(...) I'm thinking that if I purchase it, I can place it last in my chain to tame all those insane peaks caused by some of my effects.
If the peaks are below the low-B it would work otherwise it would have no effect on the signal.

Regarding the position in the signal chain, I use it as the first pedal in the pedalboard. Some people connect it as the last pedal, others between preamp and power amp or in the send-return loop. I recommend my customers to try different locations in the signal chain.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:26 PM
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:50 PM
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The B3 looks interesting but I would think that the 'scoop switch' would be more useful as a footswitch. Of course I realize that would necessitate a larger enclosure.

The Thumpinator does seem like a useful tool, I've seen them on several boards and was wondering what they were. Guess I'll hve to put that one on my list.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:59 PM
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I had a Micro Thump for a short time, but for my low gain, middle to low volume play, I didn't get its potential full benefit. I traded it to Vlad5 who does play a very loud setup.
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What is the difference between the Thumpinator and the Micro Thumpinator? (Other than size...)
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What is the difference between the Thumpinator and the Micro Thumpinator? (Other than size...)
Balanced / unbalanced input and output.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:17 PM
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Thank you cybersnyder.
I find using a HPF very useful as a bass player. These days I use my Fishman Platinum for HP Filtering, but it has way too many features that I don't need actually. This thumpinator seems to be interesting
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It will tame peaks that occur below 30 Hz, but you will find that most peaks caused by effects are well above that frequency. Even the ones that sound like insanely low booms are often centered around 80-120 Hz.
Is this valid for the Iron Ether Xerograph (Deluxe)?
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