Tone Hammer vs. VT pedal

[doktorfeelgood]

I was wondering if anybody out there has/had both pedals and what they thought of the Tone Hammer as compared to the VT pedal. I have the Tone Hammer and I am considering getting a VT pedal. Thanks for any info. )-(

[fretlessrock]

I didn't have them at the same time, but very close together. I had the TH first, and liked the tone, but the way it kicks in the extra gain bugged me (doesn't fit my setup/style). I think the TH would be great in a funk or R&B setting. It can get heavy, but I liked the shimmery/smooth side of its game the most. The VT is a much more straightforward pedal. What it doesn't have is a "channel switching" function like the AGS on the TH gives you. It is just on or off. I think the TH is a great studio tool, and could be awesome in the right setting. The VT will get you a super wide range of bass tones, everything from very mild tone shaping to the heaviest grind and massive overdrive, and the thing makes more gain than you can shake a stick at. Very different boxes, but IMO the VT makes more sense in a traditional setup.

[doktorfeelgood]

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[Jared Lash]

This is somewhat an apples & oranges comparison IMO.

I've tried a Tone Hammer and I also have an 18V OBP-3 pre in one of my basses which the TH is based on. The Tone Hammer adds the AGS and semi-parametric mids but otherwise the two sound similar. So to me the Aguilar is much more of a pre-amp while the VT Bass is really an amp emulator - an Ampeg emulator to be precise.

The VT Bass gives you the ability to give your rig a very authentic vintage tone and the Tone Hammer gives you powerful tone shaping. It colors your sound but not anywhere near what the VT Bass is designed to do. Different tools really.

I dig them both. But having all active basses, the Tone Hammer isn't really something I need and with my current gigs, getting a Fat Tube, SVT or Fliptop sound is not necessary. The Tech 21 also does pretty good modern, high gain sounds but there are other pedals I like for those tones more.

[ItsMichaelYeah]

You're talking about two diffrent beast here. The vt bass IMO is a ampeg emiulator. The tone hammer is a pre amp. I think a comparisson with the sans amp and TH is more similar.

[ryognbass]

Originally Posted by Jared Lash

I dig them both. But having all active basses, the Tone Hammer isn't really something I need and with my current gigs, getting a Fat Tube, SVT or Fliptop sound is not necessary. The Tech 21 also does pretty good modern, high gain sounds but there are other pedals I like for those tones more.

Kinda off topic, but which pedals do you prefer for the high gain modern sound?

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by ItsMichaelYeah

You're talking about two diffrent beast here. The vt bass IMO is a ampeg emiulator. The tone hammer is a pre amp. I think a comparisson with the sans amp and TH is more similar.

Yes and no. The BDDI is closer in that it has a DI and is marketed more as a preamp, but it's sound is even more colored than the VT Bass.

Originally Posted by ryognbass

Kinda off topic, but which pedals do you prefer for the high gain modern sound?

Off the top of my head I'd say Landmine and Turbo Rat.

[A.CLAYTON]

Iv'e currently got both.I prefer the TH.Much better EQ options than the VT.The VT is an Ampeg emulator,the TH is a pre-amp.

[Valerus]

i still want to try out a Tone Hammer

[doktorfeelgood]

Originally Posted by Valerus

i still want to try out a Tone Hammer

I have been thinking of selling mine... )-(

[doktorfeelgood]

BUMP )-(

[jokerjkny]

if you're talking bass distortion, the VTbass hands down. its color, dimensionality, detail is off the charts good. the tone hammer's overdrive just doesnt compare, tho it is better than most others i've tried. but compared to the vtbass, most anything would seem rather papery and 2d.

for versatility, however, i prefer the tone hammer. being able to sculpt and shape your sound w/ the EQ is just amazing, and the passable overdrive is icing on its cake. and in the studio, its mad easy to dial in a killer sound that goes great to tape. the vtbass has a nice eq section, but honestly, its hard to dial in something punchy w/ certain settings. its possible, but the midrange knob only does so much vs. the variable mids on the aguilar.

in an ideal world, the vtbass would have a sweepable midrange, or the aguilar would have the amazing depth of crunch of the vtbass. but oh well...

[shrigg]

Originally Posted by doktorfeelgood

I have been thinking of selling mine... )-(

PM Sent!

[kesslari]

This thread is actually giving me minor VT gas.

[doktorfeelgood]

I have it, too....lol And I'm trying to resist it. )-(